Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[navidson]

Yep - I think we all know the story

Over 100,000 cases for the first time today (Because for 2 years the figures have always been bloated on a tuesday)

Lockdown announced later tonight

See you in spring

 

[grandjoeblue]

Hospitalisations should be all that matter

Staff absence also is now a big issue. Hospitalisations in London are just above 50% of last Decembers figures (the 7 day average on the 18th December which is the last available date is around 215, last year it was around 400).

It did start spiking massively last year by new year the 7 day average was 800 so the situation can change quite quickly.

 

[BlueToff]

Staff absence also is now a big issue. Hospitalisations in London are just above 50% of last Decembers figures (the 7 day average on the 18th December which is the last available date is around 215, last year it was around 400).

It did start spiking massively last year by new year the 7 day average was 800 so the situation can change quite quickly.

that's true, yeah a huge issue - they need to get a handle on that by reducing the isolation period or getting accurate daily testing in place.

Key workers like that should have access to rapid, extremely accurate tests

We did have 2,280 being admitted to hospital this same day last year though mate.

 

[BlueToff]

@grandjoeblue

21st Dec 2020 = 21,233 people in hospital with COVID in England
17 Dec 2021 (latest info) = 7,482 people in hospital with COVID in England. As of yesterday, the official data was 129 people with Omicron.

To say we have the vaccine/booster roll outs, they need to have a way to have staff avoiding 10-day isolation.

 

[ToffeeTim]

@grandjoeblue

21st Dec 2020 = 21,233 people in hospital with COVID in England
17 Dec 2021 (latest info) = 7,482 people in hospital with COVID in England. As of yesterday, the official data was 129 people with Omicron.

To say we have the vaccine/booster roll outs, they need to have a way to have staff avoiding 10-day isolation.

The country won't function until they stop testing symptom free healthy people, and allow people to test their way out of the isolation period. There is no reason for someone to have to continue isolating after they test negative.

But the bigger debate is the testing. Why are we testing people with no symptoms? What benefit is that bringing to the country?

 

[TN Toffee]

I seem to have gotten lucky with the booster side effects. Had a mild fever for a few hours last night, and still sore arm today, but that’s it. The night of my second dose back in the spring was hands down one of the most miserable nights of my life.

 

[navidson]

The country won't function until they stop testing symptom free healthy people, and allow people to test their way out of the isolation period. There is no reason for someone to have to continue isolating after they test negative.

But the bigger debate is the testing. Why are we testing people with no symptoms? What benefit is that bringing to the country?

Because some people are asymptomatic? My missus currently has Covid with zero symptoms

 

[sbbefc]

Hospitalisations should be all that matter

We won't know what the situation with hospitalisations will be until it's too late. We have to do something. A circuit breaker lockdown would be a start.

 

[BlueToff]

The country won't function until they stop testing symptom free healthy people, and allow people to test their way out of the isolation period. There is no reason for someone to have to continue isolating after they test negative.

But the bigger debate is the testing. Why are we testing people with no symptoms? What benefit is that bringing to the country?

I could see one negative test as being a bit soon but surely successive days of testing negative should suffice?

Yeah well I agree there. When the booster roll out is complete, surely they should only be testing people in medical settings, or if they keep the vaccine/covid passes for events

 

[grandjoeblue]

@grandjoeblue

21st Dec 2020 = 21,233 people in hospital with COVID in England
17 Dec 2021 (latest info) = 7,482 people in hospital with COVID in England. As of yesterday, the official data was 129 people with Omicron.

To say we have the vaccine/booster roll outs, they need to have a way to have staff avoiding 10-day isolation.

Difficult because last January was mental. I read somewhere that the NHS is already at 96% capacity overall across the UK. They just aren't in a position to cope with any extra patients in the winter. Hospitalisations will be much lower in January than last year but they'll still struggle.

 

[BlueToff]

We won't know what the situation with hospitalisations will be until it's too late. We have to do something. A circuit breaker lockdown would be a start.

Actually the data so far shows hospitilisations going down across the country but up slightly - very slightly - in London.

Given London has been in the grip of Omicron for over a week, it'll be 2-3 days when we can actually start to see if there has been any impact.

If you want to lockdown, act like we're in lockdown and don't go out of your house or have any family round.

 

[navidson]

Did the government have any sort of recruitment drive whilst the sun was shining this year?

Might have been an idea

 

[BlueToff]

Difficult because last January was mental. I read somewhere that the NHS is already at 96% capacity overall across the UK. They just aren't in a position to cope with any extra patients in the winter. Hospitalisations will be much lower in January than last year but they'll still struggle.

They're at 90-95% every winter yeah, like pretty much every healthcare system in the world.

Obviously last year was nuts and I'm not saying 'oh it's not as bad as then so why does it matter' at all. I'm just putting the numbers out there that are available.

A huge, huge issue is the staff availability. That doesn't just suddenly stop being an issue if we're in lockdown.

 

[BlueToff]

Did the government have any sort of recruitment drive whilst the sun was shining this year?

Might have been an idea

I think they did tbf, there was a massive push

But I mean unless it's your dream why would you have decided to become a nurse in the last year?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

With today being a Tuesday I can see there being a lot more cases, maybe 140,000. I think we might see an announcement tomorrow of a 28th lockdown.

You work for SAGE lad? lol