Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[peteblue]

I really don't agree with this. Blaming unvaccinated people is too much of an easy cop out.

Should people get vaccinated? Absolutely. But the reason we may go into lockdown isn't because of the 10% or so of people that are unvaccinated.

It’s not an easy cop out. We have customers that we haven’t seen for nearly two years. I don’t give a crap about the loss of trade, but I do get upset because decent people are frightened to come out. Many of these do not have many years left and their quality of life is ruined by these selfish unvaccinated people…..

 

[peteblue]

Am I allowed in if I’ve tested negative for covid? And if so, will you have also taken a negative covid test to prove that you’re not a threat to me?

If you can’t be arsed doing what the rest of us have had to do to keep everyone else safe, then no. Stay home….

 

[MikeH72]

If you can’t be arsed doing what the rest of us have had to do to keep everyone else safe, then no. Stay home….

See you are just talking absolute nonsense here. Just warbling and warbling away with nothing constructive to contribute to the conversation whatsoever. No wonder public discourse is absolutely in the toilet. What a waste of time.

 

[BlueToff]

It’s not an easy cop out. We have customers that we haven’t seen for nearly two years. I don’t give a crap about the loss of trade, but I do get upset because decent people are frightened to come out. Many of these do not have many years left and their quality of life is ruined by these selfish unvaccinated people…..

and a government making continuously bad decisions...

 

[peteblue]

and a government making continuously bad decisions...

Has nothing to do with being vaccinated or not…..

 

[woomy]

It’s not an easy cop out. We have customers that we haven’t seen for nearly two years. I don’t give a crap about the loss of trade, but I do get upset because decent people are frightened to come out. Many of these do not have many years left and their quality of life is ruined by these selfish unvaccinated people…..

I don't agree with this.
Their life is being ruined by the government's complete failure to respond properly. But their not alone.
Where is the physical health advice?
Where is the mental health advice?
The busiest time for gym membership sign ups, is going to be ruined again.
People want to get healthy after Xmas, that motivation will wane if locked down.

We are led to believe, healthy, fit people who take their vitamins and look after themselves, are usually fine. Nah, let's not tell anybody this, let's not make it a thing. Let's not give subsidised gym memberships.
Let's lockdown instead, and then hope everyone copes mentally. But if they don't, they can access n 18 month wait list to see somebody. Who if they are not the right person to speak to, well they put you on another 18 month list.

 

[peteblue]

See you are just talking absolute nonsense here. Just warbling and warbling away with nothing constructive to contribute to the conversation whatsoever. No wonder public discourse is absolutely in the toilet. What a waste of time.

Nice try but you are still an idiot. Try reading what you have just written…..

 

[MikeH72]

Nice try but you are still an idiot. Try reading what you have just written…..

You are espousing fascist views Pete. History never looks back kindly on that type.

 

[peteblue]

I don't agree with this.
Their life is being ruined by the government's complete failure to respond properly. But their not alone.
Where is the physical health advice?
Where is the mental health advice?
The busiest time for gym membership sign ups, is going to be ruined again.
People want to get healthy after Xmas, that motivation will wane if locked down.

We are led to believe, healthy, fit people who take their vitamins and look after themselves, are usually fine. Nah, let's not tell anybody this, let's not make it a thing. Let's not give subsidised gym memberships.
Let's lockdown instead, and then hope everyone copes mentally. But if they don't, they can access n 18 month wait list to see somebody. Who if they are not the right person to speak to, well they put you on another 18 month list.

This is really good mate. However people in their 70’s don’t really think about gym membership, nor are they really concerned about government policy. They think about staying away from harm, and for them harm is the possibility of catching Covid from those who can’t be arsed getting the jab…….

 

[woomy]

So.
Our hospital as expected, is decimated for staff this week. With the expectation of worse to come.
Looks like everyone has been for a test, or there kids have.
So many phoned in sick or have to stay off for childcare.
I personally think in the next few days, it will reach critical point. Expecting.loads.if failed lateral flow tests,.meaning need to get tested Xmas Eve. No result till Xmas day. Xmas off.

Trust is panicking. Big time. Already an email gone out asking staff to pick up extra, and if not no on the bank, you can be rushed through the bank application process. Also closing down support, OT and education, and moving them to the wards.
Gonna be a bad one this year.

 

[peteblue]

You are espousing fascist views Pete. History never looks back kindly on that type.

You can try this all you want, but you are on the wrong side of common decency to others, and will be shown to be on the wrong side of history. Just get the bleeding jabs…..

 

[BlueToff]

Some seemingly positive news?

~12:10 in for UK hospitalisation break down

A good assessment.

BTW, for anyone interested in vaccine stuff (aspirating) watch the end of the vid. It's absolutely mental how more countries are not aspirating. The bloke he mentions from Denmark is one of their gov's senior advisers.

 

[woomy]

This is really good mate. However people in their 70’s don’t really think about gym membership, nor are they really concerned about government policy. They think about staying away from harm, and for them harm is the possibility of catching Covid from those who can’t be arsed getting the jab…….

Speak for all 70 year olds?
Lockdowns effect all. Don't need to be old,.for it to have a serious effect on you.

 

[BlueToff]

So.
Our hospital as expected, is decimated for staff this week. With the expectation of worse to come.
Looks like everyone has been for a test, or there kids have.
So many phoned in sick or have to stay off for childcare.
I personally think in the next few days, it will reach critical point. Expecting.loads.if failed lateral flow tests,.meaning need to get tested Xmas Eve. No result till Xmas day. Xmas off.

Trust is panicking. Big time. Already an email gone out asking staff to pick up extra, and if not no on the bank, you can be rushed through the bank application process. Also closing down support, OT and education, and moving them to the wards.
Gonna be a bad one this year.

shocking

They need to get this sorted. Surely there is a way for PCR test results to be expedited for critical workers?

 

[BlueToff]

Has nothing to do with being vaccinated or not…..

well yes and no. Some people will not do it because of a distrust of the government (rightly or wrongly) and, as far as this government goes, trust isn't exactly a strong point is it.

some people won't do it because they're idiots.

But again, Omicron hasn't come about because of them. It hasn't come about because of the government or their scientists. It's developed as a new strain of the virus. Whatever the government does has to be based on the models and also the real-world data we're seeing from South Africa, Denmark and now London.