Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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The capacity in hospitals discussion is an interesting one

There are roughly 160,000 'hospital beds' in the UK

There are currently 7,611 people in hospital with Covid (less than 5% of capacity)

Is the issue not necessarily covid - but that their aren't enough hospital beds in this country full stop?
You can get a bed in DFS. It's somewhat harder to get the doctors and nurses.
 
Apologies but I know nothing about virology but if the Omicron variant does turn out to be ‘softer’ could that signal the beginning of the end of the pandemic? I was reading about the Spanish Flu pandemic and that seems to have petered out after two years simply because people either died or built up immunity. Seems Omicron is dominant now and infecting many so could the famous herd immunity come into play along with vaccinations of course?
 
So it's a staffing issue then?

Maybe stop paying nurses peanuts and you might get a few more people considering it as a valid career option
The main reason nurses leave is stress and burnout. Low pay is not such a big factor.


I know from my wife's trust that they "tackle" burnout not by addressing the root causes but by giving staff access to mindfulness apps and other sticking plasters. This could be compounded in March when the vaccination mandate comes in, as around 8%, or over 100,000 people, in the NHS are not vaccinated.
 
The main reason nurses leave is stress and burnout. Low pay is not such a big factor.


I know from my wife's trust that they "tackle" burnout not by addressing the root causes but by giving staff access to mindfulness apps and other sticking plasters. This could be compounded in March when the vaccination mandate comes in, as around 8%, or over 100,000 people, in the NHS are not vaccinated.
Petty stuff like this doesn’t help either
 
Apologies but I know nothing about virology but if the Omicron variant does turn out to be ‘softer’ could that signal the beginning of the end of the pandemic? I was reading about the Spanish Flu pandemic and that seems to have petered out after two years simply because people either died or built up immunity. Seems Omicron is dominant now and infecting many so could the famous herd immunity come into play along with vaccinations of course?
Yes it's pretty much how most viruses go, most common colds are caused by coronaviruses it would appear that omicron is a big step in that direction, once people realise that all the panic over cases is a gross overreaction driven by the click hungry media then the pandemic will be over.
 
It's impossible to compare Denmark to the UK really. There are only 2 or 3 decent sized cities and a large amount of people who work in Copenhagen live in Sweden

They have a completely view on life etc too
Well to an extent, but they are definitely at least a week but more likely two weeks into their Omicron wave.

You'd have expected hospitalisations to go up, because confirmed cases have shot up there, yet hospitalisations are staying flat.
 
Don't worry - i'm not some sort of nutter that's going to go postal if I don't agree with somebody! It's all about discussion really

It sounds like we're trying to avoid people from catching a cold to save the NHS - So I suppose the social distancing/hand washing/mask wearing mandate is going to be helpful in that regard.

The problem is - you can catch a cold in an empty house sat in your pyjamas. No level of restrictions is going to counteract that scenario
Well it's not just a cold, it is COVID, it's just that the symptoms are presenting themselves as a cold and aren't the distinguishing features of previous COVID strains such as persistent cough, no smell/taste etc.



Here's a good vid assessing the recent studies (which are being peer reviewed). @LinekersLegs posted a thread about how this strain of the virus doesn't replicate as much in the lungs and this study appears to back that up.

@Ghost Rider it may also answer your question on why people may still end up in hospital with Omicron complications
 
Well it's not just a cold, it is COVID, it's just that the symptoms are presenting themselves as a cold and aren't the distinguishing features of previous COVID strains such as persistent cough, no smell/taste etc.



Here's a good vid assessing the recent studies (which are being peer reviewed). @LinekersLegs posted a thread about how this strain of the virus doesn't replicate as much in the lungs and this study appears to back that up.

@Ghost Rider it may also answer your question on why people may still end up in hospital with Omicron complications

Just googled this fella to see his credentials. Big fan of Ivermectin. That was enough for me tbh.
 
How many have died from Omicron……
Not many at all. The big issue with Omicron is its sheer infectiousness. The worry is that it’s already sweeping through the NHS.

If staff are off sick isolating for 10 days at a time who is looking after the sick? Who is performing surgery? Who is driving the ambulances?

The situation is further complicated by the fact that Delta is still circulating and it’s also general flu season. Throw Omicron into the mix and you have the perfect storm.
 
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