Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

Few people on Europe/US really expected this sort of level though - even doctors who helped out (and caught) Ebola are wiped out by the scale and length of the pandemic.

I'm not saying it's right or that I don't feel for them - I do.

But they're healthcare professionals, it's what they do. Any support possible has to be there for them.

 

[Zezti]

lol

Bunch of weirdos

 

[Martin Alvito]

@Martin Alvito Merry Christmas my fellow J&J recipient!

Good thing I didn't take the second dose of J&J. The people at the vaccination site looked at me funny for taking something else.

I suppose we'll be back in for shot #3 soon enough, on that data.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

oh yeah 100% mate - the good thing in that sense is that hospitalisation growth isn't going with those (yet).

It does feel like the challenge is as much due to the number of health staff who are off sick with this or other things.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

One idea I really liked (from Japan iirc) was a proactive approach to those vulnerable to severe disease.

Once they tested positive they brought them into low level care for a couple of days for monitoring bloodpressure/oxygen saturation etc and meant that at the earliest sign of going downhill they could be on supplemental oxygen and drugs which seemed to help to avoid a rapid escalation and requiring more intensive/skilled treatment.

Whereas we (Europe and US) seem to mostly wait until someone turns up at ER before doing much.

I suspect Japan will be somewhere to watch in a number of ways in the years ahead, not least due to the lopsided demographics that sees them with a pretty old population, although there is perhaps a lot about Japanese culture that means they age somewhat more healthily than perhaps we do in the west.

 

[roydo]

It does feel like the challenge is as much due to the number of health staff who are off sick with this or other things.

That is the curved ball few have grasped isnt it? Like I posted earlier, London has copped it big time, (inevitable I guess). The hope, and in my opinion, expectation, is that this wave will be swift, widespread, but not deadly for most. But if Covid wanted to pick a fortnight to deliver it, it has gone in two footed, and studs up.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Good thing I didn't take the second dose of J&J. The people at the vaccination site looked at me funny for taking something else.

I suppose we'll be back in for shot #3 soon enough, on that data.

Two months after our first Moderna would be my best guess on data but FDA seem to overlook us so who knows!

 

[BlueToff]

It does feel like the challenge is as much due to the number of health staff who are off sick with this or other things.

yeah that's a major concern

or ones that are having to isolate regardless of test results if they're showing symptoms - I think @woomy mentioned this

 

[BlueToff]

That is the curved ball few have grasped isnt it? Like I posted earlier, London has copped it big time, (inevitable I guess). The hope, and in my opinion, expectation, is that this wave will be swift, widespread, but not deadly for most. But if Covid wanted to pick a fortnight to deliver it, it has gone in two footed, and studs up.

yeah 100%

 

[LinekersLegs]

It does feel like the challenge is as much due to the number of health staff who are off sick with this or other things.

South Africa had a reduction of ~20% staff between Omicron infections/isolating due to contacts.

However they had a longer doubling time (UK ~2 days and SA 3ish), had largely finished their Delta wave and are in summer so less non Covid demands.

 

[CharliePotato]

Omircrom, literally a cold. How any of you mushrooms are still going along with this is absolutely unbelievable.

 

[grandjoeblue]

South Africa had a reduction of ~20% staff between Omicron infections/isolating due to contacts.

However they had a longer doubling time (UK ~2 days and SA 3ish), had largely finished their Delta wave and are in summer so less non Covid demands.

Is the 2 day doubling time actually happening though? Cases don't seem to be rising as much as expected? Haven't really looked into it but I would have thought we'd be well above 100,000 now

 

[LinekersLegs]

For my fellow readers of South African tealeaves this, along with school holidays, is going to skew the data somewhat.

 

[BlueToff]

Is the 2 day doubling time actually happening though? Cases don't seem to be rising as much as expected? Haven't really looked into it but I would have thought we'd be well above 100,000 now

well that's probably because there's so many asymptomatic cases mate

 

[BlueToff]

For my fellow readers of South African tealeaves this, along with school holidays, is going to skew the data somewhat.

Worth looking at Norway and Denmark data - which is going to filter through, they're a week ahead of UK give or take - for more comparable data