Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

It’s in no ones interests to lock down really. The way people talk, it’s this desirable choice for governments, that they are waiting to spring on people for some kind of benefit at the cost of people. Governments are borrowing billions, that will have to be paid back and bazooking the economy, all things that quickly get you out of power. Governments to my mind would hate another lockdown, zero incentive for them to have one, bar to save a health service.

Its brutal for everyone. Well except for me as the traffic is great!

The thing is mate the time to do a circuit breaker was 4 weeks ago. If they'd have done that, then maybe the spread of Omicron would have slowed before it took off. The issue I suppose was then re-opening around now for Xmas and then it spreading like wildfire anyway.

The whole issue is that they don't know how serious this is going to be so predictions of hospital admissions are ranging from very manageable numbers to numbers that would be very very grim. S***show everywhere. And it's no better anywhere else. France are off into lockdown too by the looks.

 

[BlueToff]

And we're the hysterical ones, are we Tim?

hang on, this time last year I remember saying I bet it'll be the same this time around, and in 2022 etc.

Not saying you were someone who scoffed at that, but people definitely did.

And look where we are.

There'll be a new variant of COVID next year, and it'll probably only come around when the seasonal changes kick in around November for each hemisphere. And they'll be a similar situation again.

 

[Seanjd]

It's a virus.

Which causes a disease.

 

[Seanjd]

Tbf mate you're painting out like the summer reopening was a bad idea. It wasn't at all.

The issue has been this Omicron spread and how fast it's been. Luckily it looks like it's mild and isn't going to result in as many deaths as it could have but it's a separate matter to the whole 'freedom day' thing. It really is mate.

I don’t think the reopening was a problem. It came at the right time with the amount vaccinated etc. the problem was the ‘freedom day’ rhetoric, as though that was it. Done. It was political and short sighted and is responsible for lots of the fatigue at the moment. I think there are loads of people who thought that this wouldn’t happen.

 

[BlueToff]

Btw, as for a time to have a lockdown, January as a month - meh, it's probably fine to do it then, if industries are supported. It's quiet everywhere etc.

It's the fact that it won't achieve anything because it'll be too late. It literally won't do anything.

If you're someone who thinks lockdown should happen, you should probably take the initiative and lock yourself and your family away and then you can be safe in the knowledge you've done your bit.

I know most people in here don't think that way, it's just incredibly frustrating that all across the world this is the answer and people go 'well it must be done'. Nah, and it's not just about test and contact tracing because that's happening in countries that are also introducing measures too.

 

[BlueToff]

I don’t think the reopening was a problem. It came at the right time with the amount vaccinated etc. the problem was the ‘freedom day’ rhetoric, as though that was it. Done. It was political and short sighted and is responsible for lots of the fatigue at the moment. I think there are loads of people who thought that this wouldn’t happen.

Well I agree with that but it's also media-driven.

I didn't have a massive party on 'freedom day' or owt, it was a Monday and it was like any other day. Most things had been open. People paint out like it was some massive return to normality as most stuff had been coming back over the course of the previous phases, albeit in smaller steps capacity wise.

 

[Seanjd]

Well I agree with that but it's also media-driven.

I didn't have a massive party on 'freedom day' or owt, it was a Monday and it was like any other day. Most things had been open. People paint out like it was some massive return to normality as most stuff had been coming back over the course of the previous phases, albeit in smaller steps capacity wise.

The government christened it freedom day and in doing so have the impression that this was over.

 

[CharliePotato]

I won’t be abiding by any of this crap.

 

[BlueToff]

The government christened it freedom day and in doing so have the impression that this was over.

Yet we still had masks etc in place after that IIRC?

People need to be able to think for themselves. Fed up of being told a government is responsible for every single part of someone's lives. Some people want that, they're convinced that's the way it should work.

 

[grandjoeblue]

When will the 2 week lockdown end? My guess is mid April.

 

[Harryflashman]

When will the 2 week lockdown end? My guess is mid April.

Yep didn’t We lock down for 3 weeks in March 2020 ?

 

[grandjoeblue]

Yep didn’t We lock down for 3 weeks in March 2020 ?

The January one last year was under review every 2 weeks. Didn't that finish in May?

 

[BlueToff]

The January one last year was under review every 2 weeks. Didn't that finish in May?

The January one was where they set out the roadmap out mate.

A circuit breaker lockdown wouldn't help after Xmas. We'll hit the peak cases by the end of December. A circuit-breaker lockdown would only have helped 2-3 weeks ago, to actually 'break' the circuit.

That's the issue. Omicron, from what we have seen in SA, will peak very, very quickly and then probably start to drop quickly. If that coincides with a lockdown, then they can cite the lockdown as the reason for it. When actually it's just because that's how this particular variant acts.

Instead of slowing it down at the start, they'll have just slowed it down as it was naturally peaking anyway.

 

[BlueToff]

Everybody watch the first 10 seconds of this video.

Then everybody respond and tell me who has had those symptoms at any stage in the last month.

I've got them right now - and I've tested negative four times in the last four days

 

[grandjoeblue]

The January one was where they set out the roadmap out mate.

A circuit breaker lockdown wouldn't help after Xmas. We'll hit the peak cases by the end of December. A circuit-breaker lockdown would only have helped 2-3 weeks ago, to actually 'break' the circuit.

That's the issue. Omicron, from what we have seen in SA, will peak very, very quickly and then probably start to drop quickly. If that coincides with a lockdown, then they can cite the lockdown as the reason for it. When actually it's just because that's how this particular variant acts.

Instead of slowing it down at the start, they'll have just slowed it down as it was naturally peaking anyway.

Any circuit breaker just increases the length of the peak. This variant is going through everyone.

A circuit breaker is ridiculous as cases will be higher after 2 weeks than when they start it and they'll then extend it.

If we need a lockdown, call it a lockdown and make it 8+ weeks.