tsubaki
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It’s likely going to be unmanageable because of the amount of people off work with it, combined with the extra hospitalisations it is going to bring.
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It’s likely going to be unmanageable because of the amount of people off work with it, combined with the extra hospitalisations it is going to bring.
There will be even more people off work if we see lockdowns introduced after christmas.
The evidence is south africa is promising and I don't believe this will be close to as bad as predicted by many.
tsubaki
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Not necessarily in the NHS, emergency services and other critical parts of the state / economy.
and 0 in hospital, just fyi
People dont have little faith in vaccines. We've one of the highest rates in Europe. Hospitals in Dublin are already struggling to have enough staff through illness and self isolating.
Higher case numbers mean an increase in people needing treatment in hospital - even in a very highly vaccinated population half our ICU beds are filled with covid patients so they will run out of capacity. Thats when case numbers become an issue.
The hysteria is coming from people who want no measures at all. As I said before, majority of people in Ireland have been 2 weeks ahead of government announcements in their behaviour.
The only real annoyance is that the announcements are haphazard and lack a lot of detail. We then spend the next week ironing out creases.
It was only last week. They were all double jabbed also.
It was on November 26th mate.
Yes all were double jabbed but we know that Omicron evades the double vaccinations.
70% have no symptoms with the bootsers. None of them were boosted.
https://sciencenorway.no/covid19/at...ovid-19-after-christmas-party-in-oslo/1949790 - here's the date
It's clear that the antivaxxers just don't get the national importance of beating France in the Vaccine World Cup. Their lack of patriotism is pretty disappointing.
The hysteria is from the media and people calling for restrictions and lockdowns in a society with 90%+ vaccinatation rates. People are starting to doubt the point of vaccines if we are still restricted any way. That's a big concern.
If we don't think we can cope this winter then we will never cope because nothing is going to change. The virus will not disappear so we need to come up with a long term approach. Countries introducing restrictions are just veering from one short term measure to another. It shows they have no actual plan (maybe not surprising with our own gov in fairness).
Ghost Rider
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From the independent.
Still no evidence , meaning 50 million double vaccinated have no evidence so far of serious illness or hospitalisation
This is Oxford now saying this
Ghost Rider
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If there is still no evidence for serious illness in the 50 million double vaccinated then wouldn't this then benefit the hospitals?
This whole idea of the hospitals being over run and on their arse during this winter.
If patients aren't seriously ill, then their stay will be shorter. Plus the pool of potential hospitalisations will be much smaller based on how many double and triple vaccinated.
So even if a patient does go into hospital, the need to keep them in for long periods of time will shorten? So then even with a high demand , bed turnover will be much quicker if patient can recover at home. So it may mean full capacity at times but it's going to impact much less than this time last year.
We could well be back in a scenario that we have been, the only problem being unvaccinated patients rather than the 50 million vaccinated. So restrictions will be to benefit them rather than all of us who got our jabs.
There is one drum beat being played and now the UK are starting to play it as well. Eventually people will have to accept that omircron is nowhere near as bad as delta was. Mild illness , South Africa are saying it, the experts here are starting to say it. When will people finally listen?
This whole idea of the hospitals being over run and on their arse during this winter.
If patients aren't seriously ill, then their stay will be shorter. Plus the pool of potential hospitalisations will be much smaller based on how many double and triple vaccinated.
So even if a patient does go into hospital, the need to keep them in for long periods of time will shorten? So then even with a high demand , bed turnover will be much quicker if patient can recover at home. So it may mean full capacity at times but it's going to impact much less than this time last year.
We could well be back in a scenario that we have been, the only problem being unvaccinated patients rather than the 50 million vaccinated. So restrictions will be to benefit them rather than all of us who got our jabs.
There is one drum beat being played and now the UK are starting to play it as well. Eventually people will have to accept that omircron is nowhere near as bad as delta was. Mild illness , South Africa are saying it, the experts here are starting to say it. When will people finally listen?
My genuine concern is if its as infectious as it looks to be, keeping NHS staff as safe as possible in order for them to continue to do their job over the winter period.
Pretty sure everyone wants this to be the case! It’s just been a matter of waiting for UK data to confirm the SA and anecdotal data.
In today’s manic news cycle, people are far too keen to have the answers immediately, whereas the reality is, the lag between infection, hospitalisation and mortality is well known to take time to produce real world data. The cautious approach for me has been about right.
Can’t imagine there’s anyone who’ll be disappointed that Omicron isn’t more deadly.
Martin Alvito
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It would be nice if international competition were about who can produce the best governance rather than kicking things about and screwing one another over on trade agreements, now wouldn't it?
To be honest, I think the international community will always be reluctant to enter into a competition they know will be for 2nd place at best.
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