Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LinekersLegs]

Not unexpected given the spike mutations of Omicron but still disappointing as the monoclonal antibodies have been used a lot in the US for those immune compromised or unvaccinated to avoid severe illness.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Very impressive

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[whiteshadow]

Will today be over 100,000 cases?

Will be very close at a guess.

 

[whiteshadow]

So Omnicon is going to be a bigger threat to the 90% vaccinated in the UK than the 25% vaccinated in South Africa?

How can this be?

In theory it's looking like it shouldn't be but when so many people will get it at the same time even less people getting seriously ill can become problematic.

The government can't afford to get it wrong, even if the data is looking positive from S Africa.

 

[whiteshadow]

This might be a daft comment but I'm wondering whether we might end up peaking in places like London by the time they bring in additional measures?

Very possible.

In S Africa the cases have already peaked, so unless the situation deteriates there it hopefully will happen without many people ending up in hospital.

If there's any substantial rise in hospital admissions the government will probably be forced to go national lockdown imo.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Very possible.

In S Africa the cases have already peaked, so unless the situation deteriates there it hopefully will happen without many people ending up in hospital.

If there's any substantial rise in hospital admissions the government will probably be forced to go national lockdown imo.

Once cases peak a lockdown wouldn't help hugely because they've then missed the opportunity. It would take about 3/4 weeks for the hospitalisations to start reducing due to the lag.

 

[joe1878]

Apparently the stepson of the first omicron death phoned into nick ferrari on LBC this morning and seemed to confirm he was unvaccinated as , and I’m paraphrasing, despite the best attempts of his family he’d been convinced it was all some kind of conspiracy .

If we take the call at face value Just another example that there are consequences to a lot of this stuff .

I listened to that before and it seemed a bit iffy.

 

[whiteshadow]

Once cases peak a lockdown wouldn't help hugely because they've then missed the opportunity. It would take about 3/4 weeks for the hospitalisations to start reducing due to the lag.

Yeah, true.

I mean if the hospitalisations go up by any significant level before it peaks.

Hopefully the peaks will come sooner rather than later. Knowing our luck the peaks will come just after Omicron has ruined Xmas for everyone.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Attack rate but thankfully no hospitalizations so far

 

[BlueToff]

No, it’s symptoms of a cold.

It's the symptoms of being run down, which often results in a cold as your immune system is weakened. If you're tired or you've overworked your body, you're going to be sore. If you're stressed you're going to have a headache.

BTW, I've just done and done a 50k ride. While I was out I felt a started feeling like I was getting a cold (from when I was younger I had an ear problem so if I even start to get a bit of a sniffle my ears absolutely kill, they always have and always will). So I've done a lateral flow - it's come back negative, though the mucus on it was pretty horrid after I'd put it onto where my tonsils would be. I also did a lateral flow yesterday (when I felt fine), as I was going out for a meal with the work lads.

I'm not against your idea of testing, I'm just saying it will always rely on people. I don't have anything to do today that relies on me going out but you know. If we didn't currently have a spare box of LFs I probably wouldn't have wasted one but I thought it better to be safe than sorry.

What's the difference between me doing this, and going to record my result, than someone else having to come out to someone's house but in the meantime that person has to isolate for however long that takes to then get the results back.

 

[BlueToff]

Attack rate but thankfully no hospitalizations so far

and that party was like 10 days ago now wasn't it?

0 hospitalisations a very good sign

Wonder what the vaccination status of those people was?

 

[LinekersLegs]

and that party was like 10 days ago now wasn't it?

0 hospitalisations a very good sign

Wonder what the vaccination status of those people was?

In total, 111 out of 117 attendees (95%) participated in the interviews. Respondents had an average age of 39 years (SD: 9.2; median: 38; range: 26–68) and 48 (43%) of them were women. Most respondents (n = 107; 96%) were fully vaccinated. Eighty-nine percent of the respondents (n = 99) had received two doses of mRNA vaccines. None reported having received a booster dose. All respondents reported having a negative rapid antigen self-test taken at home or PCR within 1–2 days before attending the event. Eight (7%) respondents had previously had COVID-19, but none in the previous 4 months, according to information gathered through the interviews.

Edit in both this report and the second men made up ~ 55% cases, not sure if this is selection bias of the cases or not.

 

[Ghost Rider]

No, it’s symptoms of a cold.

If the new variant has symptoms of a cold........

 

[BlueToff]

In total, 111 out of 117 attendees (95%) participated in the interviews. Respondents had an average age of 39 years (SD: 9.2; median: 38; range: 26–68) and 48 (43%) of them were women. Most respondents (n = 107; 96%) were fully vaccinated. Eighty-nine percent of the respondents (n = 99) had received two doses of mRNA vaccines. None reported having received a booster dose. All respondents reported having a negative rapid antigen self-test taken at home or PCR within 1–2 days before attending the event. Eight (7%) respondents had previously had COVID-19, but none in the previous 4 months, according to information gathered through the interviews.

Cheers Legs, really handy.

So, good news - in a way - that none of them were boosted. Shows that it can effectively evade two doses (albeit it's probably safe to assume that protection had waned as they'd have been double vaccinated a good while) but at least the 70% rate of protection from any symptoms with the boosters (official info) is not disproved by that.