Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[roydo]

Just gonna stay in. Lucky, cos I can, but feel for those, (most) who cant.

 

[PhilM]

Just gonna stay in. Lucky, cos I can, but feel for those, (most) who cant.

Nor can we (as a country) afford to financially and that's before the political will to do so. Also, ultimately, I don't think there's a need for a full lock down.

Personally, it's the last thing that I want, but thinking objectively I do feel that we as a nation probably need to do more in terms of mask wearing and distancing.

I've had COVID and I'm triple jabbed, which means for me there's probably not a huge risk; yet, it's not about me - it's about the nation as a whole.

I think we're going to be in for a rough winter but not the doom and gloom some are forecasting; how gloomy it is comes down to how we collectively deal with it.

 

[LinekersLegs]

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STAT asked a number of these experts whether they think we face a future of endless Covid boosting. In the main, their answers were more reassuring than we expected.

 

[Ghost Rider]

1% was an arbitrary number I used to set the point - 0.45% of x is less than 0.45% of x2 (squared) or whatever. This is where the concern lies.

While less people may be dying from COVID, the impact it may have on the NHS, which is already stretched, may itself lead to more related sickness or death.

It's not hard to understand that more people with COVID = more people who may be seriously ill or die.

That is true , but eventually you run out of patients.

The trade off between vaccinated and not vaccinated eventually, well, trades off. So even if the hospital's are over run due to sickness, it doesn't translate to deaths given the vaccine.

In the bigger picture that doesn't matter, the impact still is severe with an increase in admissions so the point is arbitrary for the real concern anyway.

Just saying that the link between cases and admissions may significantly increase but the link from case to death maybe won't increase in proportion to it?

 

[Naisy'sCharitableLeanings]

Again I agree, but most people don’t look at the ONS, they watch the news channels and this gross misrepresentation of numbers, is what’s doing the damage.

This is what’s scaring people into cancelling their plans and hiding away again, as they think the Three Horsemen are riding again.

The fourth horseman is self-isolating… ??

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Nor can we (as a country) afford to financially and that's before the political will to do so. Also, ultimately, I don't think there's a need for a full lock down.

Personally, it's the last thing that I want, but thinking objectively I do feel that we as a nation probably need to do more in terms of mask wearing and distancing.

I've had COVID and I'm triple jabbed, which means for me there's probably not a huge risk; yet, it's not about me - it's about the nation as a whole.

I think we're going to be in for a rough winter but not the doom and gloom some are forecasting; how gloomy it is comes down to how we collectively deal with it.

Absolutely this. But just how far some people will go with noncompliance of measures remains to be seen.

A large part of which, I would suggest, has not been helped by the news around last year's governmental lock down parties. I noted a significant drop off of mask wearing from between when plan b was announced and the scandals emerged. Folk are tired and fed up.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Mate went out in packed boozers in soho at the weekend and her and all her mates have got it.
Sounds like it’s everywhere.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I'm not going to lie I feel pretty positive right now. Nothing is 100%, but it seems like in South Africa cases exploded, everyone waited for hospitals to get overwhelmed and they just kind of didn't before the wave hit the downslope. I think we might be good guys!

 

[TheBigIguana]

Mate went out in packed boozers in soho at the weekend and her and all her mates have got it.
Sounds like it’s everywhere.

Every person on Earth that is in contact with society will get this variant it seems like. It just passes too easily.

 

[PhilM]

Absolutely this. But just how far some people will go with noncompliance of measures remains to be seen.

A large part of which, I would suggest, has not been helped by the news around last year's governmental lock down parties. I noted a significant drop off of mask wearing from between when plan b was announced and the scandals emerged. Folk are tired and fed up.

Totally - hence why I'm sceptical about the likelihood of a third lock down even before considering how necessary it is or isn't.*

And this then refers back to your first point: people are going to hear requests to do x, y and z and have little trust that those in power will adhere to them.

People are more likely to respect leadership and adhere to the rules if they a) feel it's necessary b) those in power are leading from the front - do as I do.

For most of the population, I now doubt they'll believe it's necessary and that ministers of civil servants will be abiding by the rules, and it'd be fair to do so.

It's a bit like 'The Boy Who Cries Wolf': 'Look, we need to follow the rules to save lives'; 'yeah, if you say so... but it's safe to party in your offices'.

*I'm currently in the isn't camp.

 

[PhilM]

Mate went out in packed boozers in soho at the weekend and her and all her mates have got it.
Sounds like it’s everywhere.

It's doubling every two days, which is immense. My wife says it's rife in schools!

 

[sbbefc]

Not sure that first bit makes sense; restrictions aren’t a last resort - lockdowns are.

As for the second bit I agree with you 100%, but sadly this virus doesn’t care about your, mine or anyone else’s feelings. The government’s not learned it’s lessons from the first two lockdowns and so it seems reality will be going for the hat-trick against us.

I just hope people realise how utterly they’ve failed rather than getting gulled by social media freedom types blaming paedo elites.

Don't disagree with that, but already done the hat-trick, we had the November lockdown that has largely been forgotten now!

 

[efcfanwirral]

Don't disagree with that, but already done the hat-trick, we had the November lockdown that has largely been forgotten now!

And the reopening after that destroyed 5 months of this year (7 and a half if you like mass events). I'm not overly confident this isn't the same direction of travel, though the speed of it could make that irrelevant. If we lock down,how do we ever get out of it without inviting the wave we locked down to stop? Do we ever?

 

[tsubaki]

And the reopening after that destroyed 5 months of this year (7 and a half if you like mass events). I'm not overly confident this isn't the same direction of travel, though the speed of it could make that irrelevant. If we lock down,how do we ever get out of it without inviting the wave we locked down to stop? Do we ever?

It depends on whether we learn from this one (or the two before that).

We need, and have needed since the first one, a means of detecting and containing the virus when it appears in the population. That means people being encouraged to report illness, other people to go round to their houses and test, and encouraging those in the house to isolate if people test positive. It should be seen as everyone's patriotic duty to do that.

We cannot go back to if you feel ill its up to you to get tested, if you CBA, and if your boss won't do you for it.

 

[LinekersLegs]

The speed is just incredible


I mean it was only 3 weeks ago that Omicron, or B.1.1.529 as it was then known, was reported by South Africa to WHO as a variant to investigate.