Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

Well we are with restrictions

Reducing transmission rates, covid passports , work from home etc.

The next step is closing down , we haven't got much else to 'restrict'

we clearly are not managing it, hence the huge spike in cases

 

[PhilM]

Well we are with restrictions

Reducing transmission rates, covid passports , work from home etc.

The next step is closing down , we haven't got much else to 'restrict'

In reality, how many people are actually working from home?

 

[tsubaki]

Basically we have to hope it's mild now. There are over 200,000 cases a day easily already (most people don't test). Let's hope the vaccine works. It would take 2 or 3 weeks for a lockdown to slow cases and with Christmas loads of people wouldn't obey anyway.

Maybe they can stop large events and nightclubs but I doubt it will have a big impact.

Again - "we have to hope"? "Lets hope"?

That isn't a plan, its a prayer. After nearly two years now the government should be a lot better at this than they are.

 

[urquattro]

In reality, how many people are actually working from home?

I am, never been back since the first lockdown in March,2020.

 

[Ghost Rider]

we clearly are not managing it, hence the huge spike in cases

I disagree.

Something that people just won't admit is that covid is inevitable. A more transmissible version of the virus means more cases , but there will always be cases.

If it will never go away then it's always there to be caught.

In reality, how many people are actually working from home?

Friend of mine who works in civil service just started a new job but it's now based at home rather than an office.

He has to do training via zoom without any human contact.

 

[Stoic Ape]

Again - "we have to hope"? "Lets hope"?

That isn't a plan, its a prayer. After nearly two years now the government should be a lot better at this than they are.

And round and round we go.. The government had their chance and blew it. The longer this goes on the less people will listen.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Again - "we have to hope"? "Lets hope"?

That isn't a plan, its a prayer. After nearly two years now the government should be a lot better at this than they are.

No government in the world will be able to stop this variant from spreading unfortunately in the long term.

 

[grandjoeblue]

And round and round we go.. The government had their chance and blew it. The longer this goes on the less people will listen.

Agreed the first lockdown had a chance. The last one which was about 5 months along with the Tory lies has ruined their chances of success.

Also how are you going to convince a triple vaccinated 25 year not to see their mates if they live alone? There isn't a chance the compliance will be anywhere near as high.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[tsubaki]

I disagree.

Something that people just won't admit is that covid is inevitable. A more transmissible version of the virus means more cases , but there will always be cases.

If it will never go away then it's always there to be caught.

There will always be cases - but the government have a choice between doing something right and having fewer cases, or doing nothing right and having rather more cases.

 

[Ghost Rider]

This notion of if you socialise then you will get it.

What if everyone tests themselves before gathering in mass? Say for example you didn't rely on covid passports but instead on a negative test? That wouldn't spread a virus nobody had at the time?

 

[tsubaki]

And round and round we go.. The government had their chance and blew it. The longer this goes on the less people will listen.

... which is the biggest tragedy of all. In March 2020 this government could have put this country on a much better track to cope with this. They could have done it at any point since then, but haven't.

 

[Stoic Ape]

Agreed the first lockdown had a chance. The last one which was about 5 months along with the Tory lies has ruined their chances of success.

Also how are you going to convince a triple vaccinated 25 year not to see their mates if they live alone? There isn't a chance the compliance will be anywhere near as high.

Until hospitals do actually get overwhelmed and people are dying in the streets then the average Joe ain't gonna do anything this government tells them. Just to be clear I was pro original lockdown and I'm also vaccinated.

 

[Ghost Rider]

There will always be cases - but the government have a choice between doing something right and having fewer cases, or doing nothing right and having rather more cases.

There isn't a right anymore. There was last year, there was 11 months ago but there isn't a right, now.

What is right? Right is lock down the country again to prevent cases, but then I know I don't have to go into the impact of that.

Then when you open back up, the variant will then spread around like it's doing now as it's more transmissible. So the 'right' wouldn't change a thing other than the aforementioned impact.

So right could then mean tackling it head on. If it means masks and working from home then that is the new right. If you can't avoid it then why not tackle it head on? Theoretically , more people vaccinated catching this , more antibodies they develop naturally, the stronger the population will be.

You can't avoid the inevitable. You can't prevent hospitalisations , you can prepare the hospitals though (they haven't) . You can't prevent cases but you can give people the best chance via vaccine (they are).

At some point this becomes an endless cycle. So I know they haven't done it but would it not be better to be able to tackle the end result rather than try to prevent the one thing you cannot stop?

 

[efcfanwirral]

This notion of if you socialise then you will get it.

What if everyone tests themselves before gathering in mass? Say for example you didn't rely on covid passports but instead on a negative test? That wouldn't spread a virus nobody had at the time?

Ah but by making vaccinated people test it would undermine people's faith in the vaccine programme to get us out of this. And we can't have that...