Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[grandjoeblue]

Let’s be honest, these articles read like being double vaccinated is closer to being unvaccinated. It’s scandalous reporting really.

Apparently they're suggesting you do need three doses to be protected even if you've only just had your second dose. I'm not really sure how that works.

 

[tsubaki]

While new cases are getting reported daily regardless of the numbers then there will always be a threat of restrictions.
Life as we know it has gone forever and no amount of vaccinations will get that back sadly.

As has been oft said, there are alternatives to just relying on vaccines that we should (must, really) try - alternatives that will give more normality and avoid a lot of the damage that all of us fear. Reducing this to a binary decision between "what we have now" and "do nothing" ends up with an entirely false choice.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

While new cases are getting reported daily regardless of the numbers then there will always be a threat of restrictions.
Life as we know it has gone forever and no amount of vaccinations will get that back sadly.

You would hope protests would start but people are genuinely being terrified by the media into a state of adherence.

 

[Ghost Rider]

?????????

At current averages, 7 days a week , going on the basis of a 28 day month.....

We already have over a million covid infections a month.......

 

[Deckard2049]

Apparently they're suggesting you do need three doses to be protected even if you've only just had your second dose. I'm not really sure how that works.

The problem now is they've tied themselves up in knots. My nan got her "booster" ( we all know in reality it's the third dose) about a month ago. Now she's in a flat spin. I understand why they don't want to diminish the effects of the vaccines because anyone with half a brain can tell we'd been in a far worse position without them. The issue though is that anyone with half a brain can also tell that they aren't as effective as we need them to be- and whether that's due to their design or because of the variants/the nature of this virus is up for debate.

So whilst we get light touch initial stories along the lines of "the vaccine is still amazing but a little top up never hurt anybody", these have now given way to "two doses no longer enough to be considered fully vaccinated and protection diminishes massively over time and against new variants". No wonder people are fed up.

 

[grandjoeblue]

The problem now is they've tied themselves up in knots. My nan got her "booster" ( we all know in reality it's the third dose) about a month ago. Now she's in a flat spin. I understand why they don't want to diminish the effects of the vaccines because anyone with half a brain can tell we'd been in a far worse position without them. The issue though is that anyone with half a brain can also tell that they aren't as effective as we need them to be- and whether that's due to their design or because of the variants/the nature of this virus is up for debate.

So whilst we get light touch initial stories along the lines of "the vaccine is still amazing but a little top up never hurt anybody", these have now given way to "two doses no longer enough to be considered fully vaccinated and protection diminishes massively over time and against new variants". No wonder people are fed up.

What I don't get is if a 30 year old man had his second dose in November he should surely be alright considering barely anyone is getting seriously ill in South Africa and if they are they're unvaccinated and/or old. The messaging is definitely very odd.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

What I don't get is if a 30 year old man had his second dose in November he should surely be alright considering barely anyone is getting seriously ill in South Africa and if they are they're unvaccinated and/or old. The messaging is definitely very odd.

Wake up Joe lad they are having you off.

 

[BlueToff]

How is it going to be so bad here so quickly when South Africa isn't even that bad? They're still lower than previous peaks.

errr I don't think they are in terms of infections?

I posted a few vids over the last few days in here mate and I'd recommend you watch them.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

errr I don't think they are in terms of infections?

I posted a few vids over the last few days in here mate and I'd recommend you watch them.

How you getting on mate? You still not 100%?

 

[LinekersLegs]

What I don't get is if a 30 year old man had his second dose in November he should surely be alright considering barely anyone is getting seriously ill in South Africa and if they are they're unvaccinated and/or old. The messaging is definitely very odd.

If I’m reading the UKHSA data tanle right that scenario would still put that person as 88 % vaccine efficiency vs infection and presumably higher for serious effects (am assuming this is a 2nd dose of Pfizer given the 30 year age)


Obviously small sample size as yet so things could well change in that table as get more data.

 

[CharliePotato]

I feel sorry for people who have genuinely fell for this rubbish.

 

[NorthernBlue]

If I book myself in for this 3rd jab that would mean I’d have had three in 7 months. All very suspect this. So are they saying we 3 a year now or something. Ridiculous.

 

[MikeH72]

If I book myself in for this 3rd jab that would mean I’d have had three in 7 months. All very suspect this. So are they saying we 3 a year now or something. Ridiculous.

Just one more and you can go back to normal mate. Pinky promise this time.

 

[tsubaki]

If I’m reading the UKHSA data tanle right that scenario would still put that person as 88 % vaccine efficiency vs infection and presumably higher for serious effects (am assuming this is a 2nd dose of Pfizer given the 30 year age)


Obviously small sample size as yet so things could well change in that table as get more data.

"For Omicron, essentially no protective effect of 2 AZ doses" was probably enough to spook them utterly by itself tbh

 

[CharliePotato]

If I book myself in for this 3rd jab that would mean I’d have had three in 7 months. All very suspect this. So are they saying we 3 a year now or something. Ridiculous.

Vaccinate the vulnerable they said, that’s all we need.

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