Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I don’t want you to get Covid and I most especially don’t want you to end up in hospital with it. That would be unpleasant for you, add to the workload/risk of already exhausted NHS staff and raises the chances that the triage standards of care we both don’t want will have to be implemented as they have been in many states in the US.

That is why I’ve been trying to answer the questions you have raised about the vaccine to the best of my ability.

The way vaccines work with our bodies means that the chances of long term side effects that we don‘t already know about are extremely low - all the side effects of previous vaccines have been discovered within mere weeks.

However the other side of the risk equation is that unless someone takes an awful lot of precautions Delta is so prevalent and transmissible they are likely to be exposed to the virus in the next few months. You seem to be relying on what you believe was a previous exposure for protection but as that article I previously linked to indicated, https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/09/infection-immunity-covid-19-vaccines/620099/ the science is currently unclear exactly what protection that provides and for how long. It also assumes you really had Covid - given the lack of tests available in Feb 2020 unless you have had a antibody test to confirm it could well be that all you had was a nasty cold. Even if you were previously infected the vaccine is likely to dramatically increase your antibody levels and your ability to fight off the virus.

Please at the very least get the flu vaccination - flu and Covid is a really bad combo (both for a person and healthcare services) and anything that can done to reduce its spread this winter will be particularly important.
Wife and I were both fully vaxxed and still got what I assume to be the delta variant. We aren’t out of the woods on this yet.

Have booked my flu jab at the pharmacy for 1 October. Don’t normally get it but thought better to be safe than sorry this year. The health care service in Northern Ireland is struggling badly already, so god knows what could happen with a big flu outbreak.
 
Wife and I were both fully vaxxed and still got what I assume to be the delta variant. We aren’t out of the woods on this yet.

Have booked my flu jab at the pharmacy for 1 October. Don’t normally get it but thought better to be safe than sorry this year. The health care service in Northern Ireland is struggling badly already, so god knows what could happen with a big flu outbreak.
It is unclear exactly how much of an issue flu will be this winter although two recents studies are pretty worrying

With everyone having a lot less natural immunity given its absence the past 18 months and the already overloaded hospitals if ever there is a time for someone to get it, both for their own family‘s safety and the wider society, it is this year.
 
Last time I looked it was you lot hiding under your sofa for a virus with a +99% survival rate. It is you lot who refuse to acknowledge that 18 months in and a great many people have already had and recovered from this virus, like myself, with barely a sniffle and now have natural immunity.

60% of children already have had and recovered from coronavirus but you still insist on giving them an experimental jab with absolutely no knowledge of any long term side effects. Children with just a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of even needing hospital treatment from this virus but with far worse odds of developing serious complications from the side effects of a vaccine that one has now been stopped from use on under 30s.

Moderna, a company that has NEVER released a medical product before, a company that couldn't get this mRNA through trials without killing every animal they tested it on.

Pfizer who have been embroiled in multiple legal cases and have had to pull multiple products that have been proven dangerous, you are now touting as some great saviour.

You're a bunch of fascists. You're desperate for a 2 tier society so you can lord it over the great "unvaxxed" because that's what kind of snide, cynical scum you all are.

No treatment for unvaccinated because they know the risks. Would you say the same to homosexuals then? Or how about rock climbers or divers? Sorry mate, you knew the risks!


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I couldn't care less if people who choose not to get unvaccinated die, good riddance to them as far as I'm concerned.

I'm only concerned about the drain on resources these imbecilic individuals are on the health service.

Alas duty of care forces us to give treatment to them nonetheless.
I'll just leave this here seeing as the mods have amnesia, or they're biased.

Have a nice day everyone. I sure am ?
 
I’m sorry but could you point to where I’ve said that people should be denied treatment?
@Sagat it was me who suggested that if those able to get vaccinated willingly choose not to then why should the public health system bear the burden of their care if they get COVID (and potentially put others’ lives at risk). Plenty here clearly disagree with you - many will disagree with me - but don’t tar us all with the same brush.
 
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