Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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degsy said:
Were was the case mate?
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Hi mate. Yeah, this is the issue. The case lived in Auckland but travelled down to the Coromandel while infectious over the weekend, and he sat in a busy pub on Saturday night watching the All Blacks test. He didn’t realise he had COVID until he fell ill when he returned to Auckland on Sunday.
If he had simply lived at home in Auckland over the weekend then possibly we might have just had a localised lockdown in Auckland. But because he was mingling with hundreds of people who may have travelled to different parts of the country to spread his infection, the whole country has been locked down until authorities investigate the possible spread of the virus.
 
Toffee in Jandals said:
Hi mate. Yeah, this is the issue. The case lived in Auckland but travelled down to the Coromandel while infectious over the weekend, and he sat in a busy pub on Saturday night watching the All Blacks test. He didn’t realise he had COVID until he fell ill when he returned to Auckland on Sunday.
If he had simply lived at home in Auckland over the weekend then possibly we might have just had a localised lockdown in Auckland. But because he was mingling with hundreds of people who may have travelled to different parts of the country to spread his infection, the whole country has been locked down until authorities investigate the possible spread of the virus.
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How did he get infected though? Had he been abroad or sommet?
 
roydo said:
How did he get infected though? Had he been abroad or sommet?
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No idea. Hence why the authorities are clearly a wee bit concerned as to where he got it from. Genome sequencing should be complete today so hopefully they might be able to link it back to cases in managed quarantine facilities (I.e. maybe he casually came into contact with a border worker, or something)
 
BlueToff said:
Think it's perfectly fair to say they absolutely smashed it - and were able to because of things like pop, geography etc, even remoteness out there too (half the pop live in Auckland) - in the first 12 months.

My only issue is, if going for the elimination policy, then by all means do it, but they could genuinely have had the vaccine roll out done by now, which would mean they wouldn't have to have snap lockdowns 18 months in.

I know this is a short one (albeit it won't be if they get more cases which is definitely possible), and they're in a really brilliant position, but it's still not something that should be looked upon with praise in this very moment. 12 months ago, absolutely. But different now, the vaccine has been readily available for them.
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Yeah I've a foot in both camps on this. Clearly we've done well over the past eighteen months, for the ordinary man on the street in NZ whose job doesn't rely on tourism and who pays no attention to the media, they wouldn't have known a global pandemic has been going on - our economy has been doing great, unemployment has been well down, and we've just had a couple of brief localized lockdowns in Auckland since April 2020.

However clearly what we're doing now is in no way sustainable, and to shut the whole country down for half a week for what is, at this stage, one case seems laughable. We're a nation which is heavily dependent on tourism, globalization and foreign labour, so once a majority of the population are vaccinated (hopefully very soon) we need to face the fact that the odd case of COVID will be in the community and we just need to deal with it as best we can without shutting the nation down.
 
Now at 5 cases here, and likely to increase over the next few days.
I can't argue with the lockdown but I am fuming at our rate of vaccinations. The roll out has been slow and for all the praise JA gets for leadership etc then she deserves the criticism for a poor vaccination rate.
 
Hospital figures - 157 deaths were announced today, up 146 on yesterday and down 4 on last Tuesday. 154 deaths were in English hospitals, up 147 on yesterday and up 2 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 72.86

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 170 deaths were announced today, up 144 on yesterday and up 24 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 92.29

For the 60 day cut off, 193 deaths were announced today, up 164 on yesterday and up 31 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 104.29
 
Toffee in Jandals said:
No idea. Hence why the authorities are clearly a wee bit concerned as to where he got it from. Genome sequencing should be complete today so hopefully they might be able to link it back to cases in managed quarantine facilities (I.e. maybe he casually came into contact with a border worker, or something)
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It will be from NSW. Thats where they have originated from for all our state lockdowns at the moment.
 
BlueToff said:
they're going for an elimination strategy - that's how Arden described it last week. They plan to open borders in 2022 to certain nations but are basically living as a hermit kingdom.

Now, NZ can just about do it but there is a limit and because the rest of the world isn't pursuing an elimination strategy, it's hard to see it working sustainably. Of course, the vaccines will help that but they need to get that roll out done. They realistically could already have had it done though, quite easily. There's 4.8m people or something.
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It was never meant to be a sterilising vaccine, yet New Zealand seem to be planning as if it is. Its never going away, it will never be eliminated however many vaccines we put in people.

What will the government reaction in New Zealand be when they've vaccinated everyone they can, reopen and people who are vaccinated still die from the virus, as will always happen? Back into lockdowns til they can give everyone a 3rd based on one double vaccinated death?
 
efcfanwirral said:
It was never meant to be a sterilising vaccine, yet New Zealand seem to be planning as if it is. Its never going away, it will never be eliminated however many vaccines we put in people.

What will the government reaction in New Zealand be when they've vaccinated everyone they can, reopen and people who are vaccinated still die from the virus, as will always happen? Back into lockdowns til they can give everyone a 3rd based on one double vaccinated death?
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yeah I don't no mate

hard to be too critical of their response as overall they've done brilliantly, but I don't see how elimination can work because the rest of the world isn't following suit
 
You also have to remember with NZ is that although they have a small population that would mean a small amount of hospital beds and ICU beds. If the virus were to break out within NZ I am sure hospitals will fill up very quick.
 
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