Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Tipp blue]

Yeah we all know that. But I'm not sure why you think having third world disease rates is preferable to "over-reacting"

That's not what I've said at all.. we stand by while 3rd world countries have to deal with disease when 5% of the funding covid has gotten could effectively treat worldwide TB for years.. yet we are not willing to live with the risk that we allow others to live with.. yes we have overreacted if we are delaying cancer diagnosis and treatment that's an overreaction same goes for every disease that's treatable in its early stages it's an overreaction.. and for what? To save lives? What we have done is going to cost lives but who cares? #coviddeathsmattermost

 

[mill]

That's not what I've said at all.. we stand by while 3rd world countries have to deal with disease when 5% of the funding covid has gotten could effectively treat worldwide TB for years.. yet we are not willing to live with the risk that we allow others to live with.. yes we have overreacted if we are delaying cancer diagnosis and treatment that's an overreaction same goes for every disease that's treatable in its early stages it's an overreaction.. and for what? To save lives? What we have done is going to cost lives but who cares? #coviddeathsmattermost

Your thought process is mental.

 

[Tipp blue]

Your thought process is mental.

Cracking argument, you have me convinced.. we haven't overreacted, it's great that we've delayed screening and treatment for other diseases while we deal with covid.

 

[tsubaki]

Cracking argument, you have me convinced.. we haven't overreacted, it's great that we've delayed screening and treatment for other diseases while we deal with covid.

the NHS had to do that because hospitals were full of very sick people with covid, though?

I mean its not as if everyone in the NHS went on lockdown when you did; they were still at work.

 

[mill]

the NHS had to do that because hospitals were full of very sick people with covid, though?

I mean its not as if everyone in the NHS went on lockdown when you did; they were still at work.

No they didn’t. They were clearly just sat twiddling their thumbs because of the ridiculous over reaction. That’s why so many doctors and nurses were banging on about how ridiculous the whole thing was. Last 18 months has basically been a holiday for them because of lockdown.

 

[Prevenger17]

That's not what I've said at all.. we stand by while 3rd world countries have to deal with disease when 5% of the funding covid has gotten could effectively treat worldwide TB for years.. yet we are not willing to live with the risk that we allow others to live with.. yes we have overreacted if we are delaying cancer diagnosis and treatment that's an overreaction same goes for every disease that's treatable in its early stages it's an overreaction.. and for what? To save lives? What we have done is going to cost lives but who cares? #coviddeathsmattermost

I don't even know where to start with any of this. Average annual deaths, everywhere in the world, skyrocketed with the onset of a fatal and highly contagious disease. It has so far claimed 4 and a half million lives at the most conservative estimate and that was with us locking down. The whole point of mask-wearing, lockdown etc. was to limit its spread and ensure our health system wasn't overwhelmed precisely so we could still deal with all the other diseases we face on a daily basis. Letting covid spread would 100% have resulted in far far more deaths than if we had tried to mitigate it, and that would have included more deaths from all the diseases you have mentioned. Sorry Tipp, but you are utterly clueless when it comes to this and I have no idea why you're so willing to lay your ignorance bare here

 

[Prevenger17]

I must tell all the nurses and doctors I worked with for 9 years that they have just been treating a giant over-reaction this whole time. I'm sure we'll all look back on this and laugh

 

[RAFUH]

Cracking argument, you have me convinced.. we haven't overreacted, it's great that we've delayed screening and treatment for other diseases while we deal with covid.

I get your point, to a degree, but if folks would get vaccinated, wear a mask appropriately and limit (not completely abstain, but have some freaking common sense) non-household member interaction, hospitals and clinics could function pretty normally and your argument is moot. People would receive the routine and acute care they need because healthcare systems would have the capacity.

We can "live with COVID" and do so safely, with minimal impact on daily lives if everyone could just follow the three simple steps above.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Cracking argument, you have me convinced.. we haven't overreacted, it's great that we've delayed screening and treatment for other diseases while we deal with covid.

Perhaps this hospital CEO is more convincing? He is asking people to mask up and practice social distancing precisely because the hospitals are overrun with Covid cases that will be impacting non Covid care

 

[RAFUH]

Perhaps this hospital CEO is more convincing? He is asking people to mask up and practice social distancing precisely because the hospitals are overrun with Covid cases that will be impacting non Covid care

I'm not a hospital CEO, but I play one on the internet....

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

That's not what I've said at all.. we stand by while 3rd world countries have to deal with disease when 5% of the funding covid has gotten could effectively treat worldwide TB for years.. yet we are not willing to live with the risk that we allow others to live with.. yes we have overreacted if we are delaying cancer diagnosis and treatment that's an overreaction same goes for every disease that's treatable in its early stages it's an overreaction.. and for what? To save lives? What we have done is going to cost lives but who cares? #coviddeathsmattermost

Reckon you are under false impression of our NHS, the capability to manage acute emergency beds is third world as we have some lowest number of these beds hence why the NHS came to halt, to free up staff to manage the need for acute care.
Until we have the appropriate staff no government will learn to live with the risk. Political suicide otherwise.

 

[Tipp blue]

the NHS had to do that because hospitals were full of very sick people with covid, though?

I mean its not as if everyone in the NHS went on lockdown when you did; they were still at work.

Now we are getting down to it, Why did they prioritise covid? Why stop/reduce treating other diseases to treat covid, GPs stopped seeing patients and were attempting to diagnose over the phone, people suffering from depression and other mental health problems had to stay at home and had to make do with greatly reduced contact which is the exact opposite of what would be advised for someone with fragile mental health to do.
The true scale of the overreaction will begin to be seen in a few years and I'm fully convinced that there will be people on here that are arguing with me now saying this should never have been allowed to happen..

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[mill]

Now we are getting down to it, Why did they prioritise covid? Why stop/reduce treating other diseases to treat covid, GPs stopped seeing patients and were attempting to diagnose over the phone, people suffering from depression and other mental health problems had to stay at home and had to make do with greatly reduced contact which is the exact opposite of what would be advised for someone with fragile mental health to do.
The true scale of the overreaction will begin to be seen in a few years and I'm fully convinced that there will be people on here that are arguing with me now saying this should never have been allowed to happen..

They didn’t prioritise lunatic. People weren’t just sitting off in a hospital bed. They needed urgent care. Ventilators, oxygen, intensive care.

The alternative was to leave these people to die or delay other, less acute issues.

My mum was diagnosed, treated and recovered completely of a serious illness during lockdown btw so that can’t have been prioritising Covid exclusively.

 

[Tipp blue]

I must tell all the nurses and doctors I worked with for 9 years that they have just been treating a giant over-reaction this whole time. I'm sure we'll all look back on this and laugh

It will be a great laugh, especially when the doctors and nurses you worked with for 9 years, have to stand in front of a family maybe a woman in her late 30s 2 children one 7 the other 5 and tell them that their husband father has terminal cancer that could have been treated but we were busy with covid and he wasn't diagnosed on time..