Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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LostLegend said:
The dreaded BCG vaccine!
I still have my scar lol

Apparently they stopped the BCG vaccine as standard back in 2005 due to how low TB rates are in this country.
It's only offered to people who have moved here from or are travelling to a country where TB infections are still an issue.
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amazingly enough the years of kids being vaccinated for it didn’t result in fascists walking the street attacking journalists and going on about Q - but they were simpler times
 
Prevenger17 said:
Lol sorry, I didn't realise that 4 and a half million dead people was so unimpressive to you.

TB kills about 10 people in Ireland a year, about 500 a year in the US. The reason that is so low is because it's highly treatable and manageable. Conversely, Covid has killed over 5,000 people in Ireland and over 600,000 people in the US in a similar timeframe. Because it hasn't been anything close to manageable up until now and, even then, we're still trying to understand the disease and have had to go to extreme lengths to contain it until we do.

Your argument appears to be that, since TB is still such an enormous problem in the third world, that we should just let Covid rip through our own population and let our hospitals fill up. You argue that we should have done so from the start, even though it would have undoubtedly increased the rates of death significantly and put insane pressure on our health service. You look like a monumental balloon here Tipp, give your head a wobble
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No my point is that people in the 3rd world with no means to treat or vaccinate have to go about their daily lives living with the risk.. covid Vaccines work in stopping people becoming seriously ill but don't prevent spread.. we are going to have to at some stage live with the risk this disease is not going away. Either live with covid or hide from it.
 
Tipp blue said:
No my point is that people in the 3rd world with no means to treat or vaccinate have to go about their daily lives living with the risk.. covid Vaccines work in stopping people becoming seriously ill but don't prevent spread.. we are going to have to at some stage live with the risk this disease is not going away. Either live with covid or hide from it.
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I think the living with it option was adopted months and months ago.
 
Tipp blue said:
No my point is that people in the 3rd world with no means to treat or vaccinate have to go about their daily lives living with the risk.. covid Vaccines work in stopping people becoming seriously ill but don't prevent spread.. we are going to have to at some stage live with the risk this disease is not going away. Either live with covid or hide from it.
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Or we could just take the sensible and effective measures we did, like with TB and smallpox.
 
tsubaki said:
amazingly enough the years of kids being vaccinated for it didn’t result in fascists walking the street attacking journalists and going on about Q - but they were simpler times
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It's because public health hadn't been politicized along with everything else.

There's a saying that "Politics stops at the water's edge." That one used to get violated from time to time. Now even foreign relations has become polarized along left/right lines, along with public health.

@LinekersLegs Not gonna lie, I was very happy to see that decision a few minutes ago.
 
Tipp blue said:
No my point is that people in the 3rd world with no means to treat or vaccinate have to go about their daily lives living with the risk.. covid Vaccines work in stopping people becoming seriously ill but don't prevent spread.. we are going to have to at some stage live with the risk this disease is not going away. Either live with covid or hide from it.
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At the moment a lot are sadly dying from the risk so I don’t think it a great argument tbh

Vaccines do prevent spread even with Delta



And just because Covid will likely be endemic doesn’t mean you have to tolerate high levels of infection within a community or do no mitigation to reduce outbreaks - your “live with it or hide from it” is a false choice.
 
navidson said:
They'd probably charge $25,000 for it

Yet we're the ones getting free healthcare in the 'socialist nightmare' that many Americans think we live in
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Most insurance covers vaccine costs for the patient or the cost is minimal - well for the standard recommended US vaccines.
Vaccines you'd need to travel to countries outside the US might cost a pretty penny.
 
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