Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Does it?

Every variant so far hasn't 'beat the vaccines'? And they've been developing booster vaccines for months too.

This is the same type of virus as a common cold.

There is no vaccine for that for two reasons: cost/benefit and the pace at which the mutations would cause the cold to laugh at vaccines.
 
This is the same type of virus as a common cold.

There is no vaccine for that for two reasons: cost/benefit and the pace at which the mutations would cause the cold to laugh at vaccines.

Which is why we're developing boosters (or as Legs has just shared, some nations already giving them).

For most people, two doses will be absolutely fine to stop serious illness. For most people, the immune system alone is absolutely fine. Yeah you'll be ill - you may even have some longer effects - but that's it. You won't need hospital, won't need oxygen. Some people obviously do and that's why they have to be protected as a priority. But those people will be the same ones, generally speaking, who are more likely to end up really poorly if they caught another viral infection. Whether that's down to age or lifestyle or weight or underlying conditions.

the booster shots will be yearly (if not every 6 months) for those that need them, they'll be like another flu jab.
 
Australia is not NZ
According to many Kiwis...there a North Island, a South Island and a Western Island...you know, the one with all the kangaroos, koalas and such and can't play rugby.
Statement by former N Z Prime Minister on emmigration and immigration - anybody who moves to Australia from N.Z, immediately improves the average IQ of both Countries.
 
The problem with this is that we're not dealing with the flu. We're dealing with a disease that puts somewhere between 1 in 6 and 1 in 2 that catch it into a debilitating funk for months, depending on who you ask and how you define 'Long COVID'.

Add in the fact that this type of virus defeats vaccines fairly quickly, and we're looking at long-term changes to our way of life. I agree that zero-COVID is a pipe dream. This is not SARS.
The 3rd booster jab they have been mulling will be Pfizer it's the most effective against the Delta variant. Whatever jab jab previously given Pfizer will be the third. Stepfords can dance round the may pole all they like and type nonsense on the internet. Fact of the matter over 50 or clinically vulnerable they will be having Pfizer from national vaccine program.
 
Suppose it depends on how you class 'long covid'

I'm still struggling when I exercise, and so is my mate who had it before me. Another of my mates who had it around that time is fine, and I haven't know anyone who has had it who has suffered longer than the duration they were actually ill.

But I wouldn't count myself as having 'long covid' because it's only a week since I felt better. So I'm probably just still getting my body back in working order. Also had 6 days off any strenuous exercise so that won't have helped.

If I still feel like this in a month then I'm not sure, but I'm not getting any massive bouts of fatigue and even after my run today - which was more than a struggle than it should have been - I spent a lot less time being knackered after, whereas on Thursday I was shot for nearly an hour after a ride, for example.

See when I think of long covid I think of people with long term issues that alter their daily lives. I don't really think struggling to train at the same level initially should count. You'd expect a drop in performance after a virus. Obviously if it carried on for months its an issue.

I don't really know what they're counting as long covid but things like lack of smell have been mentioned. I suppose maybe 1 in 5 or 6 might feel a bit rough for a couple of weeks afterwards but surely the percentage of people who have issues that change their daily lives is lower than 10%.
 
See when I think of long covid I think of people with long term issues that alter their daily lives. I don't really think struggling to train at the same level initially should count. You'd expect a drop in performance after a virus. Obviously if it carried on for months its an issue.

I don't really know what they're counting as long covid but things like lack of smell have been mentioned. I suppose maybe 1 in 5 or 6 might feel a bit rough for a couple of weeks afterwards but surely the percentage of people who have issues that change their daily lives is lower than 10%.
Exactly, I had the flu the other week and it probably set me back three months in terms of fitness.

My two friends who have long covid are still having issues 18 months later. Fatigue to the point at not being able to get out of bed. Dizzy spells. Breathlessness.

One was a triathlete and the other was a yoga instructor.
 
Exactly, I had the flu the other week and it probably set me back three months in terms of fitness.

My two friends who have long covid are still having issues 18 months later. Fatigue to the point at not being able to get out of bed. Dizzy spells. Breathlessness.

One was a triathlete and the other was a yoga instructor.

Ten months on and I`m still can`t run at the same intensity as I did pre virus - no hills, no speed work, plus it takes me twice as long to get into a comfortable pace, due to breathlessness. I have to jog for the first 3/4 miles, as any faster and I feel like my lungs are coming up out of my chest.

I was given inhalers by the GP, but the problem with them, is that they really dry you out, so I only use them very sparingly.
 
See when I think of long covid I think of people with long term issues that alter their daily lives. I don't really think struggling to train at the same level initially should count. You'd expect a drop in performance after a virus. Obviously if it carried on for months its an issue.

I don't really know what they're counting as long covid but things like lack of smell have been mentioned. I suppose maybe 1 in 5 or 6 might feel a bit rough for a couple of weeks afterwards but surely the percentage of people who have issues that change their daily lives is lower than 10%.

From what I`ve read, " Long Covid " is being classed as any symptom that wasn`t there pre virus and is still there after a " full recovery ", obviously there is a very wide range in severity of symptoms.
 
See when I think of long covid I think of people with long term issues that alter their daily lives. I don't really think struggling to train at the same level initially should count. You'd expect a drop in performance after a virus. Obviously if it carried on for months its an issue.

I don't really know what they're counting as long covid but things like lack of smell have been mentioned. I suppose maybe 1 in 5 or 6 might feel a bit rough for a couple of weeks afterwards but surely the percentage of people who have issues that change their daily lives is lower than 10%.

Well yeah that's what I mean – and it's only been a week.

But if it carries on, well it's definitely an issue. But I'm not having any random bouts of fatigue or dizziness.

Was interesting yesterday how Lewis Hamilton said he's still suffering a bit from fatigue after races, in a way he never was before, and he had COVID in December.
 
From what I`ve read, " Long Covid " is being classed as any symptom that wasn`t there pre virus and is still there after a " full recovery ", obviously there is a very wide range in severity of symptoms.
Long covid sounds a lot like post viral fatigue which is not uncommon after flu and even a cold and can last for months it's got all the same symptoms.. is it possibly that? but because it's Covid the scaremonger machine has gone into overdrive.
 
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