Same finding elsewhere too
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Toffee in Jandals
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Last I checked we’d (NZ) double-dosed 15% of our population, 20% single dose. The plan seems to be for everyone to be offered the vaccine by the end of October, a little over three months’ away.
So hopefully (as long as we get the supplies in from overseas) by Christmas we’ll be on track to have at least two-thirds the population fully vaccinated. I know when I’m called up to get vaccinated I’ll be at the head of the queue. Just have to hope now we’ve closed the border with Australia again we don’t get a community outbreak on this side of the Tasman in the interim next few months.
They can manufacture AZ there too.
But it's still on the government. They cocked up. Just like they got the initial part right.
It’s the lack of Pfizer jabs that’s been the issue. Due to the AZ health scare for younger people. The Aus govt messed up early doors by plumping for AZ as their main vaccine - They’re population is a lot younger demographically than say the U.K. So they’ve been scrambling to get their hands on lots of Pfizer and other alternatives.
I believe their AZ vax program for older people is well advanced. It’s the young that are still unvaccinated .
roydo
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They are approaching their spring/summer as well arnt they? Maybe they looked at the Northern Hemisphere and how we vaxed in the lower risk months, and are giving that a shot. (sic).
I think their vax program is ramping up now. With such a large number of unvaccinated people they had to make the decision to effectively close their borders and impose lockdowns.
They’ll get there around by end of this year and I’m sure international travel will open early 2022
arminisgod
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Down like a China bomb again today. Its done. Over.
cahill007
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NZ wont open borders until population fully vaccinated estimated to be by end of October more likely December. Only using pfizer and when it opens up i would say it wont be a full opening up. most likely negative test still required to entre ect ect. (Sure some tourist wont bother but most people who visit nz come for a lot longer due to the location and time to fly here)
The border controls are strict enough here that it seems very unlikely covid will get in and cause large wave before the vacation program we are withouth an outbreak now since January. And we are no longer open to Australians.
Nz economy is currently booming with 3.3% inflation the highest in a long time, its not a country reliant on tourism or an international hub.
i do agree covid will entre nz, it will cause panic and there will be a lot of infections at some point it is inevitable. If the vaccine does it job and keeps serious illness and deaths at bay its job done. We also seem to have got a good handle on test and trace (so much easier chasing 1 or 3 infections then thousands)
Martin Alvito
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The vaccine works. That's not really in dispute. The conversation is really about risks, benefits and the legitimacy of the government making that calculation on the behalf of its citizens.
Like most medical professionals, I would stake out the position that the government has that right during a bona fide public health emergency. It's not a hard position to defend. If you believe that a government has the right to suspend the writ of habeas corpus during wartime, which seems to be an uncontroversial position with respect to Lincoln and FDR, it follows that the government has the right to do what it needs to do during a public health emergency.
Yes, there have been abuses under those circumstances. That said, comparing compulsory vaccination to internment camps for Japanese-American citizens or Guantanamo Bay post-9/11 is a little ridiculous. That's effectively the position the anti-vaxxers are staking out.
I know this is going to be HUGELY selfish sounding and it genuinely will be. But I'll be damned if I've been following every.single.fn.thing the CDC and government has been telling us to do for the last 18 months just to go back to where we were a year ago because other asssholes can't be bothered to do ANY of it. Oh, Fauci is saying "even the vaccinated may have to get masks back on everywhere"? I'm sorry, I'm tired of living my life due to the ignorance and complete inability of others to simply follow scientific advice.
Saying that, I probably will just due to the people with immunocompromised systems. They have no say in the matter. But, honestly, I'm done caring about people who just refuse to do something because they are stupid and brainwashed. And I say that having lost about 4 people I was friendly or more with due to this who refused to admit this was actually a "big deal".
Saying that, I probably will just due to the people with immunocompromised systems. They have no say in the matter. But, honestly, I'm done caring about people who just refuse to do something because they are stupid and brainwashed. And I say that having lost about 4 people I was friendly or more with due to this who refused to admit this was actually a "big deal".
Martin Alvito
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Your feelings are legit.
This is why the government needs to internalize the externality the unvaccinated perpetrate. The immunocompromised situation is different, but IMO governments generally just need to step up to the plate and deal with the subsequent litigation.
We're at the point that U.S. state governments are running lotteries to pay off people for getting vaccinated. They are doing this because it's cheaper than dealing with the health system consequences of anti-vaxxers' choices and the legal system consequences of their willingness to litigate. That's messed up.
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