Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LinekersLegs]

The faux outrage is strong with this one. It was a poor choice of words but doesn’t even get close to deserving that kind of response. Whether genuine or contrived, it really can’t be healthy to be that angry over a poorly chosen word in a tweet.

We’ll disagree mate, it made me genuinely angry that a health secretary could be so dismissive of people who have been careful and those who still need to be. Healthy or not, that is what I felt/feel and I’d consider myself generally fairly even tempered.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Mrk]

We’ll disagree mate, it made me genuinely angry that a health secretary could be so dismissive of people who have been careful and those who still need to be. Healthy or not, that is what I felt/feel and I’d consider myself generally fairly even tempered.

I don’t think he was? Or, at least, that’s not how I read it. I don’t like him in the slightest, but that shouldn’t mean it’s not possible to be objective about what he was saying (or, trying to say).

 

[LinekersLegs]

I don’t think he was? Or, at least, that’s not how I read it. I don’t like him in the slightest, but that shouldn’t mean it’s not possible to be objective about what he was saying (or, trying to say).

That is exactly how I, am many others, read the phrase “Please - if you haven’t yet - get your jab, as we learn to live with, rather than cower from, this virus” hence the backlash.

 

[Nymzee]

Covid, cowering and cowardice - Making Science Public

blogs.nottingham.ac.uk

 

[Nymzee]

Cower is linked to being a coward/cowardice.

People trying not to catch a deadly virus are smart not cowards.

 

[BlueToff]

It’s a fine line though. Here in the US, Trump incessantly referring to it as the China Virus, Wuhan Flu, Kung Flu, etc, almost certainly led to real violence being committed against people of Chinese descent (or other Asian descents who the perpetrators were too stupid to know the difference). If the world didn’t have so many ****heads running around, then just using place names would be fine. Sadly, that’s not the world we live in.

I get that, was referring to UK specifically and Trump obviously would stay something as inflammatory as he did (though ultimately based in fact as it did originate in China). He obviously used that to blame the Chinese people. I don't. I do think their government hardly looked to tell the truth like - and they still aren't - but that's a different matter.

 

[BlueToff]

Cower is linked to being a coward/cowardice.

People trying not to catch a deadly virus are smart not cowards.

It was definitely a poor term to use but I think the sentiment was correct.

'Learning to live with it' isn't continued restrictions. That's all he needed to say.

 

[BlueToff]

Was labelled as the Chinese virus for many months, more so in other countries, which led to some horrific racial incidents and social exclusion last year in countries where Chinese people are an ethnic minority. There's no doubt that labelling makes a difference. It's not about being 'offended' in a 'woke' sense, it does encourage blanket blaming of ethnicities, and they're the ones who suffer.

That's on the likes of Trump etc.

I know there's idiots who are always looking for an excuse to do nasty things.

But this virus originated in China. So in relation to the BBC article last January, it makes perfect sense. And for any article, or discussion or whatever, all we know is that the initial outbreak was in Wuhan, China.

 

[BlueToff]

I don’t think he was? Or, at least, that’s not how I read it. I don’t like him in the slightest, but that shouldn’t mean it’s not possible to be objective about what he was saying (or, trying to say).

It was a mixed up and silly term to use but the sentiment is right.

The government just have to back it with better policies around self-isolation etc.

 

[BlueToff]

School's have now finished here as well Legs, so hoping that helps keep cases down (even if they spike again, it may mean the spike isn't as big).

 

[Mrk]

That is exactly how I, am many others, read the phrase “Please - if you haven’t yet - get your jab, as we learn to live with, rather than cower from, this virus” hence the backlash.

But that’s what I mean, it’s not very controversial is it? It’s merely the use of ‘cower’ rather than something a little softer that people have a problem with. The thrust of the tweet was to encourage people to get a jab so we can get back to something resembling normality. The death of nuance draws ever closer.

 

[LinekersLegs]

It was definitely a poor term to use but I think the sentiment was correct.

'Learning to live with it' isn't continued restrictions. That's all he needed to say.

All he needed to say was “please get the jab to help protect you, your families and those that cannot take the vaccine themselves“

“Learning to live with it” is an awful message for those who are immune compromised.

 

[LinekersLegs]

There are some that will never be persuaded but thought this is a good thread on how to reach those than might be.

 

[BlueToff]

All he needed to say was “please get the jab to help protect you, your families and those that cannot take the vaccine themselves“

“Learning to live with it” is an awful message for those who are immune compromised.

Hmmm. 'Learning to live with it' has been a constant message throughout all of this from several different governments Legs.

And ultimately it's what's going to happen - learning to live in a way which means we aren't scared of it but also are still very much wary of the illness, and other illnesses.

It really doesn't equate to calling people who are immune-compromised cowards or saying they don't matter, but that's just me I suppose.

But yes, something along the lines of that first sentence there would have definitely been better!