Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[RAFUH]

It’s insanity. As others have pointed out, aside from a tiny percentage of outliers who are extremely high risk, or for one legitimate medical reason or another can’t safely be vaccinated, dying of COVID in the US is entirely optional now.

I’m convinced the only way to actually get enough people vaccinated now is to start making life a pain in the ass for those who aren’t. Not talking about going door to door and forcing vaccines into arms, but just small inconveniences. Vaccine passports for public buildings would be massively helpful, so naturally everywhere that those measures would be helpful are banning them altogether.

Have a cousin that still isn't vaccinated...by choice. His mom/my aunt asked me to talk to him. When facts didn't work, tried guilt (your mom is extremely stressed because of you, already lost her husband to COVID) and inconvenience (you and your mom need to wear masks if you are around each other).

 

[Deleted member 48881]

an entirely reasonable request and realistically is the way forward for the time being

Yeah, think so too, kindly asking is the way forward imo.

 

[Tramps_mate]

@RAFUH will know better but priority as I understoid it only meant getting to the front of the queue after the vaccination was authorized for that particular group. So an at risk 16 year old here in California would only have been able to get the vaccine in mid April.

Ooh. We had all sorts of groups first with certain illnesses, etc etc that were prioritised. Im unsure if obesity counted though. But I think generally obesity and diabetes go together and I think diabetics were prioritised.. I may be wrong though.

 

[RAFUH]

Were 'at risk' groups not given priority in the US?

During the "high risk" priority stage of vaccines, vaccines were not yet approved for kids (Under 18).

Once kids were approved we had enough vaccine to not need to prioritize.

 

[Tubey]

Have a cousin that still isn't vaccinated...by choice. His mom/my aunt asked me to talk to him. When facts didn't work, tried guilt (your mom is extremely stressed because of you, already lost her husband to COVID) and inconvenience (you and your mom need to wear masks if you are around each other).

Reality TV show idea - COVID Island.

We get everyone who won't get vaccinated because of Bill Gates/5G/microchips/Illuminati etc. etc. and put them all on a remote island in the Pacific and deliberately infect them all with COVID.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

they shouldn't be mutually exclusive

It'd be good for the health service if there was a prolonged period of quiet to recharge batteries. I can see there being huge staffing issues in the short/medium-term as people decide enough is enough and go into early retirement or simply do something else. As it is, we seem only too keen to use and abuse the NHS again.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Reality TV show idea - COVID Island.

We get everyone who won't get vaccinated because of Bill Gates/5G/microchips/Illuminati etc. etc. and put them all on a remote island in the Pacific and deliberately infect them all with COVID.

I'd rather Hopkins, Farage and other ghouls like them were forced to stay in the kind of detention centres they love refugees being locked up in. See how they like it.

 

[BlueToff]

That's just it yeah. It's all a matter of balance IMO - if wearing masks at this stage of the pandemic costs jobs, bin them. If they don't, keep them. It's why a mandate can't work anymore because it's not subtle enough a measure.

My issue is the suggestion that this new guidance is also the equivalent of choosing jobs over people's lives (which has always been a nonsense because jobs are lives, ultimately).

The NHS' capacity problem shouldn't be mutually exclusive to opening up with the vaccine roll out we've had.

I can blame the government for the first one but also think the whole issue is we keep treating covid as a priority when frankly a 30-year-old with COVID should not be a priority over a cancer patient or a prospective cancer patient.

We have incredibly effective vaccines for one. We don't for the other.

 

[roydo]

I had an Email from the CEO of a supermarket I have a loyalty card with today, saying effectively that. I dont think its a message that many would not agree with. @Toast

 

[LinekersLegs]

NW potentially stabalizing? Hope so as the rest of this is pretty grim

 

[BlueToff]

It'd be good for the health service if there was a prolonged period of quiet to recharge batteries. I can see there being huge staffing issues in the short/medium-term as people decide enough is enough and go into early retirement or simply do something else. As it is, we seem only too keen to use and abuse the NHS again.

I get that and agree with it Bruce but, when's that time going to come even if we did stay in some form of semi-lockdown (let's say what it was like from May 17th)?

Over the winter with other illnesses it'll be pushed to capacity as it always is, probably. Though at least this year the booster jabs for COVID will probably also increase the uptake of flu jabs (you'd like to think).

Basically, whatever happens, the NHS will never really have a period of quiet because whenever we open up, there'll be a rise in cases and hospitalisations. That'll happen whether we do it now or in a year's time.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Have a cousin that still isn't vaccinated...by choice. His mom/my aunt asked me to talk to him. When facts didn't work, tried guilt (your mom is extremely stressed because of you, already lost her husband to COVID) and inconvenience (you and your mom need to wear masks if you are around each other).

And sign he is reconsidering? Feel very sorry for your poor aunt.

 

[RAFUH]

Reality TV show idea - COVID Island.

We get everyone who won't get vaccinated because of Bill Gates/5G/microchips/Illuminati etc. etc. and put them all on a remote island in the Pacific and deliberately infect them all with COVID.

He says he doesn't like it because it is not fully FDA approved (still under emergency use authorization).
Arguable the most scrutinized vaccines ever. As I recall Phase 3 trials started in June/July of 2020 so we now have data a year post vaccine.

 

[navidson]

Reality TV show idea - COVID Island.

We get everyone who won't get vaccinated because of Bill Gates/5G/microchips/Illuminati etc. etc. and put them all on a remote island in the Pacific and deliberately infect them all with COVID.

I'd genuinely re-subscribe to SKY just to see this

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I get that and agree with it Bruce but, when's that time going to come even if we did stay in some form of semi-lockdown (let's say what it was like from May 17th)?

Over the winter with other illnesses it'll be pushed to capacity as it always is, probably. Though at least this year the booster jabs for COVID will probably also increase the uptake of flu jabs (you'd like to think).

Basically, whatever happens, the NHS will never really have a period of quiet because whenever we open up, there'll be a rise in cases and hospitalisations. That'll happen whether we do it now or in a year's time.

I just have a sneaky feeling that the pandemic has broken it and it's not going to recover.