Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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looks just the sort to enter a hospital, remain two meters away from everyone and not touch anything

Tbf mate, it really is doable.

I didn't touch anything when I went into LGI for my dental x-ray. Had 'contact' with two people - one of them stood at the door but behind a glass pane - and then the assistant who set the x-ray machine up. Both fully ppe'd up and neither got close.

I had to sanitize on entry and wear a mask obviously. Had my x-ray, got up and left as directed.

Of all the things to call him out on, you're picking a weird one as it's entirely possible - and he also did say he was in the dental section.

If you're going A&E it'd be different, like.
 
the sad thing is they’ve faced no consequences for their failure on AIDS, nor will they on this

One possible exception/difference... with HIV the effected population wasn't in the GOP voter base. This delta variant is more likely to hit their base. Based on some reading I did earlier, white, conservative, non college educated, males are all categories that consistently pop up as vaccine hesitant.
Not sure if there will be consequences of this since so many of the same group deny reality even when it's right in their face.
 
Not surprising that Missouri and Arkansas are turning into the epicenter for cases (based on population not actual case #)
It’s insanity. As others have pointed out, aside from a tiny percentage of outliers who are extremely high risk, or for one legitimate medical reason or another can’t safely be vaccinated, dying of COVID in the US is entirely optional now.

I’m convinced the only way to actually get enough people vaccinated now is to start making life a pain in the ass for those who aren’t. Not talking about going door to door and forcing vaccines into arms, but just small inconveniences. Vaccine passports for public buildings would be massively helpful, so naturally everywhere that those measures would be helpful are banning them altogether.
 
Yes, but the difference is not wearing a seatbelt doesn't tank a whole sector of the economy. You can't just ignore that - it's a huge deal with thousands upon thousands of jobs resting on it.

The mask mandate made total sense pre-vaccination. It doesn't now. You have laws when on balance it makes sense to have those laws - it makes sense to wear a seatbelt, it prevents death, there's no downside beyond a tiny amount of personal inconvenience.

I suppose you could say the same with masks re that last bit, let's be fair.

But, masks won't be mandatory forever so at some point they were always going to introduce this guidance policy.

I suppose the thing with masks that you'd have got if they kept it mandatory would be things like well you wouldn't have to wear them at a gig or in a club, but you would have to on transport or in a shop.

Now to me in all honesty that makes sense because you're more likely to spend more time in a supermarket than a gig (as in generally not in that you'd be in a supermarket for two hours at a time). Then again, you're more likely to hug and shout in a gig than in the shop.

But, in that above case you'd definitely get people saying there's a gray area etc so why do they have to follow the rules.

People are obsessed with the governments telling them exactly what to do and that baffles me, it really does. Especially of all the governments, this one.
 
She looks potentially morbidly obese. Was she not in the at risk group for early jabs?
Clearance for 12-15 year olds to be given vaccines was only on May 10th, sadly she had already caught Covid by then
 
Clearance for 12-15 year olds to be given vaccines was only on May 10th, sadly she had already caught Covid by then
Were 'at risk' groups not given priority in the US?
 
I suppose you could say the same with masks re that last bit, let's be fair.

But, masks won't be mandatory forever so at some point they were always going to introduce this guidance policy.

I suppose the thing with masks that you'd have got if they kept it mandatory would be things like well you wouldn't have to wear them at a gig or in a club, but you would have to on transport or in a shop.

Now to me in all honesty that makes sense because you're more likely to spend more time in a supermarket than a gig (as in generally not in that you'd be in a supermarket for two hours at a time). Then again, you're more likely to hug and shout in a gig than in the shop.

But, in that above case you'd definitely get people saying there's a gray area etc so why do they have to follow the rules.

People are obsessed with the governments telling them exactly what to do and that baffles me, it really does. Especially of all the governments, this one.

Not really no, because it's a psychological downside with masks. Go a gig or a pub or a restaurant, or a soft play centre with kids, with everyone having to walk around with a mask - you won't want to go back in a hurry because it's not worth the psychological stress of the environment. It's not enjoyable, there's no leisure benefit from partaking in the activity.
 
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Not really no, because it's a psychological downside with masks. Go a gig or a pub or a restaurant, or a soft play centre with kids, with everyone having to walk around with a mask - you won't want to go back in a hurry because it's not worth the psychological stress of the environment. It's not enjoyable, there's no leisure benefit from partaking in the activity.

I kind of get that argument in hospitality. It's annoying but I do think people are used to it. It's definitely not damaged the pubs around me – they've been busy and people have adhered to it. However, that was this year. In September when they introduced that rule, it was annoying.

But a gig arena, club etc can't really survive with that, though I'm sure come freshers weak loads of places will be throwing 'Mask Discos' or something.

My mate, who is very anti-tory to the point of being really blinkered about anything, surprised me when he said the other day that he'll just keep on wearing a mask anywhere it doesn't ruin the experience for him. I hadn't really thought about it that way but suppose it's fair enough.

I'm the same, I just haven't got anything of note coming up in which having to pop a mask on would ruin my experience, so I'll just carry on doing it when I feel it would be safer to do so.
 
I kind of get that argument in hospitality. It's annoying but I do think people are used to it. It's definitely not damaged the pubs around me – they've been busy and people have adhered to it. However, that was this year. In September when they introduced that rule, it was annoying.

But a gig arena, club etc can't really survive with that, though I'm sure come freshers weak loads of places will be throwing 'Mask Discos' or something.

My mate, who is very anti-tory to the point of being really blinkered about anything, surprised me when he said the other day that he'll just keep on wearing a mask anywhere it doesn't ruin the experience for him. I hadn't really thought about it that way but suppose it's fair enough.

I'm the same, I just haven't got anything of note coming up in which having to pop a mask on would ruin my experience, so I'll just carry on doing it when I feel it would be safer to do so.

That's just it yeah. It's all a matter of balance IMO - if wearing masks at this stage of the pandemic costs jobs, bin them. If they don't, keep them. It's why a mandate can't work anymore because it's not subtle enough a measure.
 
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