Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Probably cos a lot of the under 40s dont see the point in getting a jab, hence the drop off.
BlueStevie35
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Hospital figures - 33 deaths were announced today, up 30 on yesterday and up 13 on last Tuesday. 32 deaths were in English hospitals, up 31 on yesterday and up 12 on last week. The 7 day rolling average rises to 17.29
All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 37 deaths were announced today, up 28 on yesterday and up 14 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 20.29
For the 60 day cut off, 44 deaths were announced today, up 35 on yesterday and up 18 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 25.57
All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 37 deaths were announced today, up 28 on yesterday and up 14 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 20.29
For the 60 day cut off, 44 deaths were announced today, up 35 on yesterday and up 18 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 25.57
Mrk
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I'm not sure mate, logic states that the fewer people there are waiting to get a jab, the harder it will be to get as many jabs in arms on a daily basis.
For example, when there were 30 million people eager to get their jabs a few months back, if somebody isn't able to make one of the appointments available to them, there'd be thousands of other people in their area who would jump at the chance. But now the pool of unvaccinated people is smaller, so there's less demand. They seem fairly confident of hitting their goals, so I assume the NHS are confident they have enough supply to hit it.
The 7-day average is up to 310 - up by 52% in the last week. The implied doubling time is 12 days.
Where are your figures from? They're not the same as the news..
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ForeverBlue92
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That first Saturday night is going to be utter carnage.
Cobweb fanny all over the place - be like Gold Rush for the young bucks.
Cobweb fanny all over the place - be like Gold Rush for the young bucks.
The July 19th date announced in the U.K., is the same date the EU lifts travel restrictions on member states. We’re all getting a Covid passport emailed to us in the EU this week.
It could just be amazing coincidence the two dates co-incide, or the U.K. may be trying to compete economically with the rest of the EU to stay competitive, which is understandable.
It does however beg the question is the phased reopening based on public health or economic motivations.
Mrk
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Should be both, surely? They both matter equally as much, especially now that the most vulnerable are extremely well protected.
Not sure mate, I’d let public health lead the way myself. I find the equation of opening up and an acceptance of 100k cases and ”regretfully“ more deaths doesn’t sit well with me. Thats not to say I hope the former is avoided, I find it an incredible leap of faith in all honesty and looking into it from a public health perspective it’s hard to find a motivation, beyond anything fiscal. It was felt necessary to delay a few weeks ago and if anything, the virus profile has deteriorated nationally.
Mrk
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I’d agree if this was the start of the pandemic, but we’re well over a year into it now - how much longer can the economic realities be avoided? 99% of deaths from COVID in the UK have happened in over 40’s, the same over 40’s who will have an extremely high level of immunity by the 19th.
So what do we say to the 25 year old who’s lost their job, or will lose their job if this carries on much longer? What do we say to the school kid who’s been messed around and missed a year of good education? What do we say to the business owners who have had to take on dangerous levels of debt to stay afloat and pay their staff?
We’ve primarily told young people that they’re having to put their lives on hold and potentially damage their careers in order to stop people dying of this horrible disease. How much longer can we string them along?
All good points and all valid. To answer your question, probably at a time when the vaccine profile hasn’t detiorated to what it has now. It’s not just about deaths, we are finding long term chronic damage to people exposed to covid on a daily basis. People talk about vaccines, like that’s it, a reverse Logan’s run. The vaccines are dynamic they waine over time. I’m due a third in autumn as my immunity will be thread bare coming into winter - I got mine in Jan, like many of the most vulnerable. In that context letting this virus purposely rip through the population, 6 weeks before Autumn, well like I say it comes with a big public health risk.
Was reading a study on Delta and household earlier, Alpha on average infected 60% of a household if one person was infected, Delta 100% I pointed out the trend of exponential growth back at 200 cases weeks ago, today it’s close to 30k. Delta needs to be suppressed before the winter. Was talking to someone in the NHS yesterday, they are so dispirited by U.K. public health policy, they’ve worked so hard through waves of this and are knackered, then public policy is essentially going to let this rip through the population, from a healthcare point of view after a year of this it’s very dispiriting. The mask thing is just bananas.
All your points are valid, but equally so are mine, not sure both can be reconciled, so it’s back to my original point, you’d query the motivation behind the public health decisions made.
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