I'm sure I've got the moon and sixpence for you to wish for in a draw somewhere as well.
Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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tsubaki
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I’d settle for a government learning from having to shut the nearly entire country down, twice.
It’s not too much to ask.
Govts like lockdowns, it a simple, one size fits all solution, they like simple...saves them from having to do the hard
It's the sentiment and the time chosen to do it that annoys me.
This idea that people should be scared, and people who do have that fear - which to an extent is justified but it will be just as scary in 6 months as it is now - will latch onto it.
I didn't call him a monster. I don't think he is. I called him a prat. People in here have called Peston a lot worse for having the audacity of doing his job and reporting from government sources.
To me, he could have written this article at any time. Instead, and I understand why this has happened, he's written/published it at a time to capitalise on people being scared about life returning to, as much as possible, normality (it's not really that huge of a step, life has returned in stages to normality for the last two months now)
You do know that they said exactly what you wanted them to say yesterday, though?
Re. track and trace, they said that people would have to use it and that how it is operated would be assessed - especially in terms of schools? That test and trace would be used alongside the vaccines.
What did you want them to do in terms of that announcement? And I agree with you that the current test and trace isn't up to scratch, though I think we disagree slightly on the reasons why.
Johnson also said: "If a variant emerges that is immune to the vaccines, heaven forbid, we would have to take steps to protect the public. But, on balance, the massive success of the vaccine roll out, given the fact that this is a good moment to do it given the coming summer holidays, the firebreak we have there, and given the difficulty of opening up in the colder autumn months, I think this is a balanced and cautious approach."
tsubaki
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No, they didn’t and to be honest it’s really a massive leap to describe what they did yesterday as “exactly what you wanted them to say”.
I’ve said repeatedly for more than a year what I think they should do and that was not it, at all.
This is what was said on test and trace:
"You will have to self isolate if you test positive or are told to do so by NHS test and trace, but we're looking to move to a different regime for fully vaccinated contacts of those testing positive and also, for children and tomorrow the education secretary will announce our plans to keep key protections but remove bubbles and contact isolation for pupils."
Now, we need specific details on how that will work, but surely, that's stressing the importance of test and trace? And I don't even think it should need to be that thorough once the vaccine roll out is complete
tsubaki
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Exactly - but it’s doing the hard work now that’s vital. If we have a third lockdown after all this, them continuing to be the government is surely unsustainable.
I'm no fan of Peston but on this occasion he is speaking from a personal experience and asking people to have some empathy for people like his late wife.
He might have already written about his wife at the start of the original lockdown, I've no idea.
But to call him a prat for it is a bit much.
I have empathy for his situation. It must be (and have been) awful. Lots of people have similar stories. Life can be crap, really crap.
But this post - 'prime minister’s freedom day is day of sheer dread for far too many people.' - ends the thread.
And then one look at the replies is people demonising others.
I don't think they will purely because he knows it'll be the end of him as a PM.
It wouldn't be Labour that got in though, doubt they'd even have the bottle to call for an election and they're still a mess.
You can think all you want it'd be the end of them but what's gonna happen? Just get some other Tory freak in.
tsubaki
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It isn’t - because it’s a statement that doesn’t stress the importance of test and trace, just implies it.
I mean if it was important they’d have made sure they were reforming the system, to improve it and fix the many problems. They aren’t doing that.
It’s kind of like telling people to call 999 when they are burgled whilst also reducing police numbers, closing police stations and telling the police to report burglaries over the phone. Yes, they are saying they are serious about burglary but they aren’t doing anything to actually take it seriously.
tsubaki
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Honestly I wouldn’t care who replaced them - a government that failed three times in this way would not be safe to have in charge of the country.
The next one wouldn't be any better, it's the same party and would largely be the same government, that's the issue.
But right now, I think what they're doing is right. They have to open up, have to try, and have to see how it goes. The test and trace is crap, altogether, any test and trace is and shouldn't really be tolerated when we're all vaxed up but until that point (and due to timings, it'll probably have to be next year) then we have to have one - it needs to be better and more streamlined than it is.
Short of that, all we can do is try, and hope the vaccines and boosters work in keeping deaths and hospitalisations low. There is no alternative.
I said yesterday, this mask situation will be the new Brexit in the so called culture war we currently have.
It will get worse.
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