Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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@Bruce Wayne how is laughing at an absolute garbage article on the internet the same as laughing at domestic violence???
The article was based on a peer-reviewed study showing that domestic violence increased by between 26-38% when England played in the 2014 World Cup.


You laughed at that finding.
 
I know someone in their 50s who has been double jabbed with AZ as is currently fairly ill at home with Covid so hard to say that you should automatically be exempt from isolation.

Think the real issue is isolation full stop.

Given we're all going to have the vaccines - I know like you point out there'll be exceptions to the rule, there always is - then when that time comes we shouldn't really be isolating because we're all vaccinated.

That's the end goal, surely.

It probably does have to be rapid testing within the same day (or like a 12-hour timeframe) and then you follow that up with another test 2-3 days later either way (whether you're positive or negative).
 
Double jabbed people should be exempt from isolation where they are in contact. Or perhaps you get tested and can avoid isolation with a negative test. The idea fully vaccinated people are told to isolate makes little sense to me.

It’s because you can still spread it - that’s the only reason (and the only justification why) isolation is necessary. They’ve got to test people though, not just leave it ten days.
 
It’s because you can still spread it - that’s the only reason (and the only justification why) isolation is necessary. They’ve got to test people though, not just leave it ten days.

My issue is that there is testing available for people in isolation but it doesn't do anything.

As in, a negative test doesn't release you. You still have to wait the 10 days regardless. Unless - as I found out last week when my housemate had to isolate but they're classed as a key worker - it's for work reasons. He had to get two PCR tests come back negative and he was allowed back out after 3 days total.

It's mad.

Now, if the rule was that like my housemate, if you get two negative tests in a row or whatever you can leave, then I think while it's obviously incredibly annoying, it's at least a start towards less draconian measures and less inconvenience and stress for people. I don't think it should be in place in the long run, but for the foreseeable it probably wouldn't be an issue.
 
Not sure if this has been posted before - It's an interactive map showing 1st and 2nd vaccination dose totals at postcode level


That's interesting.

Just checked my mum and dad's postcode, where there has been a walk-in centre in the last month (and is near the main vaccination hub for Wakefield anyway).

90.1% received first jab, 76.1% second jab. It's a more affluent, generally older area.

Checked my current postcode (10 mins down the road) - 85.5% first dose, 69% second dose.
 
That's interesting.

Just checked my mum and dad's postcode, where there has been a walk-in centre in the last month (and is near the main vaccination hub for Wakefield anyway).

90.1% received first jab, 76.1% second jab. It's a more affluent, generally older area.

Checked my current postcode (10 mins down the road) - 85.5% first dose, 69% second dose.
58.3% first dose, 34.1% second dose here, which is a bit worrying.
 
Having a look at the weekly case numbers and noticing that the North East is currently going a bit mad with cases

Looked at Sunderland and their dose rates are 53.4% and 35.1%

I have no idea what this data means but seems interesting
 
My issue is that there is testing available for people in isolation but it doesn't do anything.

As in, a negative test doesn't release you. You still have to wait the 10 days regardless. Unless - as I found out last week when my housemate had to isolate but they're classed as a key worker - it's for work reasons. He had to get two PCR tests come back negative and he was allowed back out after 3 days total.

It's mad.

Now, if the rule was that like my housemate, if you get two negative tests in a row or whatever you can leave, then I think while it's obviously incredibly annoying, it's at least a start towards less draconian measures and less inconvenience and stress for people. I don't think it should be in place in the long run, but for the foreseeable it probably wouldn't be an issue.

This is (obviously) the failure of test and trace though - if they were coming around to people’s homes, this wouldn’t happen; households who’d tested negative would not be isolating.
 

The long goodbye to covid-19

The pandemic is still far from over, but glimpses of its legacy are emerging


When will it end? For a year and a half, covid-19 has gripped one country after another. Just when you think the virus is beaten, a new variant comes storming back, more infectious than the last. And yet, as the number of vaccinations passes 3bn, glimpses of post-covid life are emerging. Already, two things are clear: that the last phase of the pandemic will be drawn-out and painful; and that covid-19 will leave behind a different world.

This week The Economist publishes a normalcy index, which reflects both these realities. Taking the pre-pandemic average as 100, it tracks such things as flights, traffic and retailing across 50 countries comprising 76% of Earth’s population. Today it stands at 66, almost double the level in April 2020.

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Yet the ravages of covid-19 are still apparent in many countries. Consider our index’s worst performer, Malaysia, which is suffering a wave of infections six times more deadly than the surge in January and scores just 27. The main reason for this is that vaccination remains incomplete.

In sub-Saharan Africa, suffering a lethal outbreak, just 2.4% of the population aged over 12 has had a single dose. Even in America, where vaccines are plentiful, only around 30% of Mississippians and Alabamans are fully protected. Although the world is set to produce around 11bn doses of vaccine this year, it will be months before all those jabs find arms, and longer if rich countries hog doses on the off-chance that they may need them.

The lack of vaccination is aggravated by new variants. Delta, first spotted in India, is two to three times more infectious than the virus that came out of Wuhan. Cases spread so fast that hospitals can rapidly run out of beds and medical staff (and sometimes oxygen), even in places where 30% of people have had jabs. Today’s variants are spreading even among the vaccinated. No mutation has yet put a dent in the vaccines’ ability to prevent almost all severe disease and death. But the next one might.

None of this alters the fact that the pandemic will eventually abate, even though the virus itself is likely to survive. For those fortunate enough to have been fully vaccinated and to have access to new treatments, covid-19 is already fast becoming a non-lethal disease. In Britain, where Delta is dominant, the fatality rate if you become infected is now about 0.1%, similar to seasonal flu: a danger, but a manageable one. If a variant required a reformulated vaccine, it would not take long to create.

However, as vaccines and treatments become more plentiful in rich countries, so will anger at seeing people in poor ones die for want of supplies. That will cause friction between rich countries and the rest. Travel bans will keep the two worlds apart.

Eventually flights will resume, but other changes in behaviour will last. Some will be profound. Take America, where the booming economy surged past its pre-pandemic level back in March, but which still scores only 73 on our index—partly because big cities are quieter, and more people work from home.

So far it looks as if the legacy of covid-19 will follow the pattern set by past pandemics. Nicholas Christakis of Yale University identifies three shifts: the collective threat prompts a growth in state power; the overturning of everyday life leads to a search for meaning; and the closeness of death which brings caution while the disease rages, spurs audacity when it has passed. Each will mark society in its own way.

When people in rich countries retreated into their houses during lockdowns, the state barricaded itself in with them. During the pandemic governments have been the main channel for information, the setters of rules, a source of cash and, ultimately, providers of vaccines. Very roughly, rich-country governments paid out 90 cents for every dollar of lost output. Slightly to their own amazement, politicians who restricted civil liberties found that most of their citizens applauded.

There is a vigorous academic debate about whether lockdowns were “worth it”. But the big-government legacy of the pandemic is already on display. Just look at the spending plans of the Biden administration. Whatever the problem—inequality, sluggish economic growth, the security of supply chains—a bigger, more activist government seems to be the preferred solution.

There is also evidence of a renewed search for meaning. This is reinforcing the shift towards identity politics on both the right and the left, but it goes deeper than that. Roughly one in five people in Italy and the Netherlands told Pew, a pollster, that the pandemic had made their countries more religious. In Spain and Canada about two in five said family ties had become stronger.

Leisure has been affected, too. People say they have had 15% more time on their hands. In Britain young women spent 50% longer with their nose in a book. Literary agents have been swamped with first novels. Some of this will fade: media firms fear an “attention recession”. But some changes will stick.

For example, people may decide they want to escape pre-pandemic drudgery at work, and tight labour markets may help them. In Britain applications to medical school were up by 21% in 2020. In America business creation has been its highest since records began in 2004. One in three Americans who can work from home wants to do so five days a week, according to surveys. Some bosses are ordering people into the office; others are trying to entice them in.

Those who don’t die roll the dice

It is still unclear whether the appetite for risk is about to rebound. In principle, if you survive a life-threatening disease, you may count yourself as one of the lucky ones and the devil may care. In the years after the Spanish flu a century ago, a hunger for excitement burst onto the scene in every sphere, from sexual licence to the arts to the craze for speed. This time the new frontiers could range from space travel to genetic engineering, artificial intelligence and enhanced reality.

Even before the coronavirus came along, the digital revolution, climate change and China’s rise seemed to be bringing the post-second-world-war, Western-led order to an end. The pandemic will hasten the transformation.
 
58.3% first dose, 34.1% second dose here, which is a bit worrying.

Is that in London mate?

Could you think of any reason why? Younger population, larger population so taken longer to get it out etc?

Uptake around my neck of the woods in all age groups has been really high.
 
This is (obviously) the failure of test and trace though - if they were coming around to people’s homes, this wouldn’t happen; households who’d tested negative would not be isolating.

Well kind of but also the rule needs to be different. Like I said, atm, it doesn't matter if you have the LF or the PCR (unless they've changed that very recently) - you still have to isolate for the entire 'incubation period' - which is 10 days from the point of contact, supposedly.

That's the rule that needs changing; whether people are going to houses or not or people are having to travel doesn't really impact that?
 
Good way to get out of those commitments :D

From BBC live blog

The Duchess of Cambridge was due to spend the day with her husband at events to mark the 73rd anniversary of the NHS.

However, she will now face 10 days of isolation at home, after coming into contact with someone who had tested positive for Covid-19.

Kensington Palace said in a statement: "Last week The Duchess of Cambridge came into contact with someone who has subsequently tested positive for Covid-19.

"Her Royal Highness is not experiencing any symptoms, but is following all relevant government guidelines and is self-isolating at home."

Kate's last public event was a visit to Wimbledon on Friday, where she met staff and sat with former tennis star Tim Henman to watch Jamie Murray play in the doubles.

William contracted Covid last spring but was able to carry on with telephone and online engagements while he was treated by royal doctors.
 
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