When on earth was this???
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When on earth was this???
Regardless of that Bruce, if it is not mandatory to wear a mask, then people shouldn't be made out to be evil or selfish if they choose not to wear one.
The end goal is to get rid of all of it - masks, social distancing, isolation and travel quarantine etc. Personally feel July 19th might be a bit soon for that, and I'd think it'd be sensible to have some measures in place that allow us to have the trade off of everything else being open, and then we could maybe see where we're at next year in terms of masks etc.
I don't think most on here are doing that. They're just worried what will happen if we see another spike in hospitalisations or the vaccines stop working.
My only issue with that is, we're seeing no evidence that that will happen. People are acting like it's a certainty that the virus will mutate into a variant that is entirely immune from the vaccines but that would make it unlike any other coronavirus, surely? Then, we also have boosters in development which will add an extra layer of protection to combat that.
It can all change very quickly but as it stands the case rate in the UK is not leading to a rise in deaths or even a sharp rise in hospitalisations - and those that are going to hospital are tending to come out just fine, and, like you say, it's not that the NHS is at risk of being overwhelmed.
Somewhere needs to take the first step and if, in Europe, that's the UK, so be it. The response has ranged from chaotic to corrupt to downright criminal, but the vaccine roll out has given us a good platform and we're also seeing that across Europe too.
That’s all well and good, but people need a reason to screech on Twitter about how they’re a better person than you so unfortunately none of that matters.
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Not planning for a worst case (or even a likely outcome) is what is required though. I hope it’s not required, but not doing it would be criminal.
I agree with that.
But that shouldn't mean we stop what we're doing now or how we're doing it in terms of lifting restrictions. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
The track and trace is crap but the whole thing is crap. It needs completely redoing but, I don't think any solution is good - but if there is one that is workable then it should be used. This one currently - with people having to isolate for 10 days - is a nonsense.
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The government are right to move to personal responsibility and to remove all restrictions.
Twitter isn't real life so I wouldn't read too much into what people say on it. There is no middle ground and you must be on one extreme of every issue. If you want to wear a mask and be cautious about where you go and what you attend, then no problem at all. If you don't want to wear a mask and are completely comfortable in bigger crowds, then no problem. People deserve the right to make their own decisions after all these months.
The main thing at this point is convincing as many as possible to get jabbed. We will never convince everyone but the more the better.
Twitter isn't real life so I wouldn't read too much into what people say on it. There is no middle ground and you must be on one extreme of every issue. If you want to wear a mask and be cautious about where you go and what you attend, then no problem at all. If you don't want to wear a mask and are completely comfortable in bigger crowds, then no problem. People deserve the right to make their own decisions after all these months.
The main thing at this point is convincing as many as possible to get jabbed. We will never convince everyone but the more the better.
Double jabbed people should be exempt from isolation where they are in contact. Or perhaps you get tested and can avoid isolation with a negative test. The idea fully vaccinated people are told to isolate makes little sense to me.
It's mad mate.
I just don't think anyone should have to isolate unless they're showing symptoms and, in that case, @tsubaki 's call for a system to be in place for rapid testing needs to be available.
The testing is probably the best way around it. If the 10 day thing is kept in place then it will become very counterproductive and people will just ignore.
My wife is currently self isolating as a colleague in work has tested positive , both double vaccinated.
The rules for schools are changing soon so in a few weeks she wouldn't have to self isolate anymore.
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@Bruce Wayne how is laughing at an absolute garbage article on the internet the same as laughing at domestic violence???
Yeah I've heard of a few people I know in similar circumstances. The summer holidays are coming up I suppose, so they probably need to have a think about what's the best approach from September. Rapid tests seems the most logical way to avoid full classes being sent home on a regular basis. Whether that's practical, I don't know, but a full school year next year should be one of the top priorities for government.
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I know someone in their 50s who has been double jabbed with AZ as is currently fairly ill at home with Covid so hard to say that you should automatically be exempt from isolation.
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