Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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BlueToff said:
Fully, look, the UK cocked up - the vaccine roll out has been far from perfect.

I just think, 18 months in, Aus did so well initially but just becoming a hermit kingdom with snap lockdowns can't be praised as normal - even though I know you've had 'normality' internally.

Three months into a vaccine programme and Australia could genuinely have been not just fine internally, but also 'open' to the extent of a bit more leniency on travel quarantine, not having that risk of snap lockdowns etc.
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All true, I think the biggest impediment has people being a bit nonchalent. "We don't have covid here, so why rush to get a vaccine" seems to be quite a common theme.
As for borders, a lot of Australians really don't mind them being closed. "We are all doing just fine over here, so why rush to open them" also seems to be a common theme.

I hope this latest little outbreak finally wakes people up to getting the vaccine as soon as possible, because I want to go on holidays again next year
 
BlueToff said:
Thing is, everybody has to accept masks and testing are here to stay for a while yet.

But the point of July 19th (what could have been June 21st) is for life to be back to how it was other than those inconveniences.

That's what the government need to make clear, but let's face it they don't have a clue. While it's annoying, very annoying, it is in a way understandable because this is wholly uncharted territory for every single nation but they do need to try, which is why calls for more restrictions etc are so infuriating.
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Surely masks are no longer required after the 19th? How can you have people dancing in nightclubs and then masks in supermarkets? Makes no sense.

Maybe they will recommend them for public transport.

As you have mentioned its difficult as they have not confirmed what will/won't be allowed.
 
BlueToff said:
It stops people getting ill, and that should be enough.

Now, it's fair enough that we need to get everyone at least dosed up once first, I can take that. But after that, with vulnerable people (and many more who aren't 'vulnerable') fully vaccinated and then boosters already being worked on, then it's different.
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it stops most of the vaccinated being seriously ill - if it’s still spreading the disease amongst unvaccinated populations, then we need to make sure people understand this
 
Dharma said:
Someone from the UK telling Australians they got it wrong. - AND how they should be doing it. WOW.
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Oh read my posts.

I'm not shouting from the rooftops saying that the government here got it right with the initial response. The one thing that has gone well here is the vaccine roll out.

I find people getting hard ons over posts about more restrictions dead weird. That's all.
 
tsubaki said:
it stops most of the vaccinated being seriously ill - if it’s still spreading the disease amongst unvaccinated populations, then we need to make sure people understand this
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And the point of pushing the dates back was to get the unvaccinated age groups vaccinated.

People do understand it. But short of pinning them down and injecting them, then we can't do much else.
 
grandjoeblue said:
Surely masks are no longer required after the 19th? How can you have people dancing in nightclubs and then masks in supermarkets? Makes no sense.

Maybe they will recommend them for public transport.

As you have mentioned its difficult as they have not confirmed what will/won't be allowed.
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Because more people generally spend more time in supermarkets than night clubs, would be my guess.

There's no way masks on transport, in shops etc are going away within three weeks.
 
WA Toffee said:
All true, I think the biggest impediment has people being a bit nonchalent. "We don't have covid here, so why rush to get a vaccine" seems to be quite a common theme.
As for borders, a lot of Australians really don't mind them being closed. "We are all doing just fine over here, so why rush to open them" also seems to be a common theme.

I hope this latest little outbreak finally wakes people up to getting the vaccine as soon as possible, because I want to go on holidays again next year
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Well put. I wasn't meaning to have a go.

I'm just fed up of people calling for more restrictions and being happy about it.

It should be the last thing anyone wants now, opening up should be the way forward and the vaccines make that possible. Don't care whether it's AZ, Moderna, Pfizer, whatever, they make it possible.

Especially now with evidence across all the vaccines that an 8-week spacing is best for efficacy (I remember the outcry on here when the UK decided to go for longer spacing against the advice of pharma companies, in order to get more people with a first dose sooner), then there's no excuse for any developed nation not to have their populations done (as much as is possible without pinning people down to the tables) by the end of the year.
 
tsubaki said:
not sure, but it’s been in all the pro-government papers repeatedly
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Well yep but that's not the same. The Fail and Scum putting 'freedom day' is just an easy headline.

But you know, someone called it 'Gammon Day' on here yesterday. Because apparently, wanting to be able to do things is now 'gammon behaviour'.
 
BlueToff said:
Because more people generally spend more time in supermarkets than night clubs, would be my guess.

There's no way masks on transport, in shops etc are going away within three weeks.
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If you go to a nightclub you're there for much longer than a supermarket. Even a big food shop is probably an hour max for most people. Most people who go town for a night out would be there for probably 4 hours minimum or more.

What about pubs also? Can you have a pint standing up on the 19th? If so how does that work without masks?

I just don't get how you can fully open with masks/social distancing. They don't align.
 
BlueToff said:
Well yep but that's not the same. The Fail and Scum putting 'freedom day' is just an easy headline.

But you know, someone called it 'Gammon Day' on here yesterday. Because apparently, wanting to be able to do things is now 'gammon behaviour'.
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TBF “gammon day” is a bit more accurate than “freedom day” - I mean, if you don’t think unlocking everything irrespective of the obvious risk on the 19th it doesn’t mean you hate freedom or even that you don’t want to go back to a free society.
 
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