Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Sydney and the NT gone into a circuit breaker with case instances of Delta.

Think Oz is about 10% into their vaccine rollout.
Brisbane where I live is now as well. Our government are hopeless at this. Their rollout of the vaccine has been horrible but also there is alot of people who are not bothering to get it because of out initial success in stopping it etc. I got my first jab last week which was the Pfizer one (In my 40s so that was when we could first get it) and I am trying to encourage my wife to get hers although she is younger she could have got the AZ one awhile ago as she works in a medical centre. There are also people who still have the not as bad as the flu belief and those people are very hard to argue with.

Its very frustrating here as although we have done well we continually chop and change lockdowns etc. I need to travel down to Victoria in 2 and half weeks and was planning on driving but that looks like it might not happen now. I could actually avoid Sydney and drive where there are no cases but they will probably still lockdown the whole state.
 
Brisbane where I live is now as well. Our government are hopeless at this. Their rollout of the vaccine has been horrible but also there is alot of people who are not bothering to get it because of out initial success in stopping it etc. I got my first jab last week which was the Pfizer one (In my 40s so that was when we could first get it) and I am trying to encourage my wife to get hers although she is younger she could have got the AZ one awhile ago as she works in a medical centre. There are also people who still have the not as bad as the flu belief and those people are very hard to argue with.

Its very frustrating here as although we have done well we continually chop and change lockdowns etc. I need to travel down to Victoria in 2 and half weeks and was planning on driving but that looks like it might not happen now. I could actually avoid Sydney and drive where there are no cases but they will probably still lockdown the whole state.
You think you have got it bad... No denying any government would have struggled with the pandemic, but look at our donkey of government. Our resident Tories bang on about the media scare stories most have not really covered this litany of idiocy from our donkey in chief.

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You think you have got it bad... No denying any government would have struggled with the pandemic, but look at our donkey of government. Our resident Tories bang on about the media scare stories most have not really covered this litany of idiocy from our donkey in chief.

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FFS, we know that. Also, those 'too little, too late' bits - oh just piss right off will you. As if the last lockdown wasn't hard and grim enough on people? And guess what, despite all the complaints in Jan and Feb of people going 'we're not in lockdown because people are still going to work', case rates dropped right down. And they stayed low at every single point up until the Delta variant and even then, deaths low.

But it's also totally not the point.

Aus' initial strategy worked. Decisive action which, in conjunction with their geographical location and generally how the population is separated too, worked a treat in getting levels of COVID right down.

However, their vaccine roll out - which is actually what will get any country out of a state of perpetual in and out lockdown - has been dismal. And there is no reason for it to have been. The Aus government and regional governments going into snap two-week lockdowns isn't something that should be lauded. The questions have to be asked why they are still needing to do that 18 months into the pandemic when they've had plenty of time now to have the vaccine roll out stepped up and pushed out.

3% of their adult population has been fully vaccinated, according to the BBC.

For any developed country, that's ludicrous.
 
I think because it’s been been pretty much non problematic over there really, there hasn’t been the urgency really, they were happy to hang about while the States and Europe got going to see how they got on, other thing is the gaccine# have been produced largely by European and American investment that’s seen both jurisdictions at the top of the order que. A couple of other variables like Fedral Goverment, logistics and being very careful about using vaccines re: clotting etc, makes up a slow progress rollout.
Complete idiocy from their (even more right wing than the UK's) government, btw.

But then again you had people on here a few months back going 'Aus is completely back to normal', despite their being strict quarantine rules and snap 5-day lockdowns.

They got the initial bit right. But they've totally cocked up their vaccine roll out so far. Because they'd done all the leg work with the initial lockdowns last year, they could have had most of their population done by now, and case rates would have still stayed low.
 


Baffling tweet.

"Only" 86%? That's a huge number, absolutely huge. Well in excess of what is needed for population coverage, which is approx. 70%.

His own graphs invalidate his points but he doesn't interpret them that way because he doesn't want to.


Lots of people seem to have a starting goal of bashing tories (e.g.) and will get there by any means.

What gets me is the disingenuous paths they'll usually take to get there, you know... pretending to care about other people and stuff.
 
"Latest estimates for the infection fatality rate show the ratio of infections to deaths is 20 times lower than it was in the winter wave. Just 0.08 of cases result in a death."

On the BBC live feed at 10.29.

If that had been the case from the outset we would be looking at fewer than a total of 10,000 covid deaths essentially covering 2 winters.

Hopefully, this means that the vaccines have made this less serious than flu going forward. I imagine that they will be looking at improving the efficacy of flu vaccines with the advancements made.
 
"Latest estimates for the infection fatality rate show the ratio of infections to deaths is 20 times lower than it was in the winter wave. Just 0.08 of cases result in a death."

On the BBC live feed at 10.29.

If that had been the case from the outset we would be looking at fewer than a total of 10,000 covid deaths essentially covering 2 winters.

Hopefully, this means that the vaccines have made this less serious than flu going forward. I imagine that they will be looking at improving the efficacy of flu vaccines with the advancements made.

We need to reopen as soon as possible if that is the case. Excellent news.
 
Looks like Singapore are completely changing their approach to the pandemic now. I think the majority of the world have realised zero covid is impossible to achieve. Vaccinate 70% and then return to normal.

It’s certainly more difficult to achieve when countries like ours (and the US) refuse to take this as seriously (or deal with it anything like as well) as they did - they’ve had 36 deaths in total from this, from a shade under 63000 cases.
 
Wimbledon at full capacity under the roof... I'm happy things are getting back to normal but I find it a bit off that this is the first sports event they give the green light to.
 
Yeah but the assumption is if you get the first you aren't averse to getting the second.

The problem would arise if the population wasn't getting any vaccine offered.

The drop off in second vaccines 45+ is simply because of the wait between the first and second required. For every age group that falls within the time frame for both doses, the conversion rate is extraordinarily high.

Just got my second appointment rebooked to be 3 weeks early than it would have been. I reckon by early part of next month all 40+ will be double jabbed. Then it will be a question of what non-AZ stocks they have to try and do the lower age range early.
 
Wimbledon at full capacity under the roof... I'm happy things are getting back to normal but I find it a bit off that this is the first sports event they give the green light to.
In fairness, they trialled three indoor gigs in Liverpool a few months back, so I don't think it's particularly political/discriminatory.
 
Wimbledon at full capacity under the roof... I'm happy things are getting back to normal but I find it a bit off that this is the first sports event they give the green light to.

It isn't?

Or do you mean at full capacity?

They've been trailing things but there'll be 25,000 more people at Wembley tomorrow than there are on centre court today.
 
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