Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[coollino]

I can't help but feel that people saying that it's just a four week delay and there won't be any lockdowns in the future are very naive. What this delay shows is that there's going to be another lockdown come winter as what this delay shows is that the government are bottle merchants. Every time they've needed to show strong leadership they've failed, they failed with lockdowns in the past when they were too slow to enact them and they're failing now when they're too slow to ease all restrictions. As soon as old and vulnerable people do what old and vulnerable people tend to do in winter, they will feel the pressure to lock down again and will do so.

Anyway, I'm willing to have a friendly bet with somebody that July 19th will not see the end of all restrictions. £10 to the other person's nominated charity?

I think masks will be around until next spring. work for home advice may stay a bit longer too, particularly as it hits october.

both wouldn't bother me too much but at the same time i don't have to wear a mask for a prolonged period.

 

[Brennan]

If daily cases and deaths are the same or higher in four weeks than today - what then?

Its not the cases in isolation that are a concern, it’s cases plus hospitalisations and the ratio between them.

If an extra 10 million people get the second dose between now and the re-opening this will tip that ratio much further in our favour. We know that one vaccine doesn't offer sufficient protection against Delta.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Even if they do mate, I'd be surprised if come autumn and certainly winter if cases and deaths aren't above what they are today.

Is this the benchmark for restrictions?

Who knows...

I think by that point the amount of people fully vaccinated should prevent us seeing more restrictions than we have now. Im hoping this is the strongest restrictions that we will see again..

 

[BlueToff]

Its not the cases in isolation that are a concern, it’s cases plus hospitalisations and the ratio between them.

If an extra 10 million people get the second dose between now and the re-opening this will tip that ratio much further in our favour. We know that one vaccine doesn't offer sufficient protection against Delta.

I do agree with the logic in that the extra month will give more people - and actually people in the age groups which are right now more likely to contract COVID as they are a) unvaccinated (not anti-vax, just not yet had the opportunity to get one) and b) probably in general more likely to be out and about socialising - the chance to get the vaccine. For example, I'm getting my first dose on June 27. All my mates who haven't already had theirs are getting theirs around the same time too.

I just feel there needs to be a clear approach and they need to make it clear that masks and things will be here, but that we can at least try and see stuff like outdoor events etc back on later in the summer.

There's got to be some give. Especially when you look at this: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/covid-trials-crowd-mass-events-b1851700.html

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Just waiting for the media to do a complete U turn and start wringing their hands together, about how dreadful the non lifting of restrictions is.

You beat them to it lol

 

[Tubey]

You beat them to it lol

Typo in "businesses", no full stop end of sentence.

That's where your licence fee goes folks.

 

[degsy]

We don't know what things will be like in 4 weeks. What if things are similar? What if this becomes a seasonal issue every winter?
I don't have the answers to these questions but we cannot constantly just make short term decisions. There has to be a time when we accept we cannot fully eradicate this virus and we have to learn to live with it and mitigate is as best we can.

This.

 

[BlueToff]

You utterly underestimate the sufferings of the youth. It is not like just drugs, gigs and parties missing. They lose the best part of their life. Oldies, as much as I want them healthy as long as possible, have had their youth at the very least. And its been 1,5 years. Whole population tried to protect them in the mean time.

Getting old sucks, pandemic or no pandemic, this is not new. Death too.

I do miss the drugs and gigs.

It's not the same doing it my own living room.

 

[degsy]

Israel has almost complicated eradicated Covid from their country, whilst ours is seeing case numbers skyrocket again

What's the difference?

People over here can't be arsed putting a facemask on to go into a supermarket, pub owners can't be arsed providing table service so allow the regulars to walk up to the bar, people can't be arsed getting vaccinated

This one isn't the government's fault - it's us

I have some sympathy with this view.

 

[BlueToff]

This.

People keep saying this, but ultimately the vast majority of governments around the world are too scared to take the first step.

If June 21st becomes July 14th, or whatever it is, I can live with it. But my livelihood isn't depending on it.

But that time should be used to purely get more people vaccinated, one dose or two, and then that should be it.

But it won't be.

And I had to laugh, as @COYBL25 mentioned, when I saw the news on Saturday.

BBC reporter asked Johnson about the consequences of a delay, yet every day on every major outlet there has been some new 'expert' saying how we should be going back into lockdown or some such. Now the narrative has changed.

I hate this government, but tbh they're not the only problem here.

 

[BlueToff]

I have some sympathy with this view.

Have our cases sky rocketed?

Genuine question, I haven't been keeping track.

 

[COYBL25]

Have our cases sky rocketed?

Genuine question, I haven't been keeping track.

In certain areas.

 

[BlueToff]

In certain areas.

tend to be the ones with less vaccinated populations I imagine?

 

[COYBL25]

tend to be the ones with less vaccinated populations I imagine?

The term the press use is " areas of multi occupancy households ".

 

[Lapeno77]