Yeah I agree mate, it's just a crap situation.
Tell me about it. Got an 'online gig' booked for the 29th and I'm bloody buzzing. Sad times.
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Yeah I agree mate, it's just a crap situation.
Tell me about it. Got an 'online gig' booked for the 29th and I'm bloody buzzing. Sad times.
davek
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Anyone who doubts we'll be in another surge and lockdown situation this year are seriously deluded.
Latest models suggest smaller third wave in late summer but variant risks remain | Imperial News | Imperial College London
The roadmap out of lockdown for England could lead to a smaller third wave in late summer or autumn, but the risks of new variants of concern remain.www.imperial.ac.uk
The vaccines have been left to do all the work and there is obvioulsy no real attempt to stop variants coming into the country, and major resources are haphazardly made available for community testing depending on the variant - as we saw with the ignoring, or "targeted" attempt at dealing with, the Indian variant.
Still - "It's over" say the GOT Independent SAGE group.
I don't think anyone doubts another surge.
It's your insistence that a full lockdown will be needed that winds people up.
We know there'll probably be a spike in cases. It'll probably come in a few weeks when stuff is open indoors for a bit, but we're starting from such a low base that it shouldn't matter.
Come winter, we'll likely see some restrictions, but the vaccines are working and are doing the leg work so far.
People have been hugging and visiting other households for ages now too, and the virus hasn't swept us all yet.
We got our bad wave in January, before Europe did. Likely, at least in a large part, down to the disastrous use of the tier system in December, allowing London and the SE to be in T2.
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It was a serious point. India and Nepal require oxygen and every other support that can be given to help fight Covid. Instead of addressing the real issue this reporter is just pointing at a minor activity that granted could make an infinitesimal difference but solves nothing. It’s like reporting on a famine and pointing at someone eating a sandwich. It’s lazy in my opinion. Where are his photos of all the spare oxygen bottles and oxygen manufacturing equipment within the USA, U.K., EU, Russia, China...things that actually would make a difference.....
davek
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There is no "winding up". It's my opinion and the opinion of many other people inside and outside the medical profession.
The vaccines wont work for everyone. What % of the population it doesn't work on is the only matter to be determined.
Honestly, there is some clownish attempt to avoid all serious discussion on th subject because people can see the indoors of an ale house beckoning.
I get people want a breather. We all do. But just know this: we will be in lockdown again, it's an absolute certainty.
davek
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On Merseyside infections are growing exponentially again in Sefton. A tripling in a fortnight of cases.
It's just not over.
We need vaccines + social distancing and mask wearing in indoor settings.
The discipline has gone again, encouraged by a murderous government controlled by corporate fascism.
Indoor drinking and dining + foreign holidays will guarantee us being back in a surge-lockdown in months.
tommytowne
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Happy sign, an increased volume of beer wines and spirits delivery lorries on the highways and byways.
There is no logic to another lockdown in future with a population who will almost entirely have been vaccinated. It's time to open up the internal UK economy fully and start to move forward.
Things are improving, people are right to start feeling more optimistic.
davek
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Once again:
The vaccines wont cut it.
It's uncharted territory but it looks like the scientific community are foreqarning us of something we already know: they are not a panacea. Tens of thousands will die. We'll need surge control...LOCKDOWNS in other words.
grandjoeblue
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Are you copying and pasting these comments at this point? You've been stating this for months.
Everyone knows that there will be more cases and probably more deaths. You cannot prevent 100% of deaths by keeping 60m+ locked down forever.
We all already know that you're happy to let millions lose their jobs and to be stuck in poverty but in the real world that just won't work in the long term.
They are clearly working. There is no evidence that they are not. I am looking forward to being offered mine.
PaulPowersTash
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You are forgetting the fact that the general public will simply not tolerate another full lockdown. No chance.
The vast majority of people will have been fully vaccinated by the summer. That gives circa 95% protection against serious illness and death. Life has to go on now. You screaming doom & gloom on here everyday might give you the attention you clearly crave but it's over davek start to deal with it. Yes people will become infected. Yes they might be ill but the very high probability is that they will not die. Another third, full on lockdown is not happening.
If you look at Seftons daily rates, there was one day with a huge number of new cases, which looks like it could have been a back dated number added on.
However, I do think there is a small increase in infections creeping in. I do not though think we will lockdown again.
I could possibly see the restriction easing for May 17th being delayed.
This is where we need to balance. It will never go away fully, no matter what we do. However with deaths being low hopefully in future, it must be weighed up versus millions losing jobs and ending up in poverty, as we know suicide rates will then increase.
Interesting to see where the next week goes..
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