Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[CharliePotato]

It's called cautious-realism based on the last 15 months of human catastrophe.

Only a Pollyanna would think otherwise and be advocating any other way forward than I'm doing.

Whatever mate.

 

[TommyDavo]

If the cap fits.

can you shift over, apparently i’m there 24/7 as well.. not bad after 10 posts

 

[davek]

There are lightweight and pretty non event safety proceedures in play now, and have been for a while now. The lab folk are testing and testing and then double checking data from around the country to evaluate what they reckoned/hoped would happen, is.

So far, so good. Lockdown ended ages ago, schools have been back for what, 6 or 8 weeks, (including Easter), zippo meaningful issues there, with millions of tests being done every day to keep tabs on infections, and types of infections.

To say lock down ended weeks ago is to ignore the way the areas of concern will ramp up after May 17th and after 21st June. You cant test that. We are in uncharted territory at the end of the summer going into autumn.

This is as good as it gets with the rate of infection right now with no indoor events. That will end after the indoor hospitality starts up and holidays happen and music events indoors start up. The infection from that can be tolerated to a certain level by the NHS and I wouldn't expect (as per last summer) fatalities to be a major issue. But the vaccines will then need to really show what they can do in the months after the summer.

 

[BlueToff]

@ForeverBlue92 hope you're staying well clear of that club day pilot thing, just seen a news report and I don't think you'd get out of there intact

(Fell in love with one of them myself like).

 

[BlueToff]

To say lock down ended weeks ago is to ignore the way the areas of concern will ramp up after May 17th and after 21st June. You cant test that. We are in uncharted territory at the end of the summer going into autumn.

This is as good as it gets with the rate of infection right now with no indoor events. That will end after the indoor hospitality starts up and holidays happen and music events indoors start up. The infection from that can be tolerated to a certain level by the NHS and I wouldn't expect (as per last summer) fatalities to be a major issue. But the vaccines will then need to really show what they can do in the months after the summer.

You said that there'd be a massive surge when schools reopened - there wasn't, despite mass testing.

You said there'd be a massive serge after April 12th. Well, nearly 3 weeks later and nothing yet.

Now you're saying the same about May 17th.

We know there's a long, long way to go. And I'm sure you're right that come the winter there'll probably be some form of restrictions (large indoor events may have to go from November through to Feb or something which would be crap but probably realistic to expect).

But as it stands, things are looking bright. One step at a time.

 

[davek]

I agree with some of your notes of caution on opening fully up although some of that can be addressed by effective monitoring and keeping a few of the easier NPI like indoor masks for a bit.

However we’ll have to agree to disagree on the bolded bit - all the evidence I’ve seen so far is that full vaccination is incredibly effective against both the original strain and the current variants. Could that change with new variants, yes, hence as @tsubaki notes we need to ensure we have good systems in place to quickly identify any problems and we’ll probably need a vaccine boosters strategy for the autumn/winter.

This time last year and through summer we had no UK Virus. The world has gone through hell with it. Another VOC capable of breaking through the vaccine is far from impossible.

Regardless of another variant though, medical officers are blue in the face underlining that the vaccines may not give the protection to a lot of people that will be old and clinically vulnerable. They cant say it often enough. Let's hope there's no variants, and let's see if the vaccines go through a winter period subduing any massive surges we've seen last spring and last winter.

 

[LinekersLegs]

My Mum got her second shot of Pfizer today

 

[roydo]

To say lock down ended weeks ago is to ignore the way the areas of concern will ramp up after May 17th and after 21st June. You cant test that. We are in uncharted territory at the end of the summer going into autumn.

This is as good as it gets with the rate of infection right now with no indoor events. That will end after the indoor hospitality starts up and holidays happen and music events indoors start up. The infection from that can be tolerated to a certain level by the NHS and I wouldn't expect (as per last summer) fatalities to be a major issue. But the vaccines will then need to really show what they can do in the months after the summer.

We have been in uncharted waters for 14 months. Its plain as day that the lab folk modelled this slow unlocking, the test events, the massive testing, the vax roll out, everything.

Like I said, so far, the results have been what they hoped for.

Lets go with them. I fully expect a major booster jab roll out later this year, and next come to that.

 

[TommyDavo]

My Mum got her second shot of Pfizer today

She would not accept my name is Tom mine in 14 days

 

[CharliePotato]

You said that there'd be a massive surge when schools reopened - there wasn't, despite mass testing.

You said there'd be a massive serge after April 12th. Well, nearly 3 weeks later and nothing yet.

Now you're saying the same about May 17th.

We know there's a long, long way to go. And I'm sure you're right that come the winter there'll probably be some form of restrictions (large indoor events may have to go from November through to Feb or something which would be crap but probably realistic to expect).

But as it stands, things are looking bright. One step at a time.

Come winter (flu season) it will come back no doubt, or maybe this year the flu will magically re appear, must have been on a sabbatical this year.

 

[davek]

OMG.

Nobody show @davek this.

I posted about this earlier today.

Liverpool: what a sad sight to see. Led by corrupt politicians who service the spiv economy they created, and populated by a growing number of scabs.

"Please Boris, we'll carry out any test events for you".

Liverpool: Rebel City. Do me a 'kin favour.

 

[Goat]

I posted about this earlier today.

Liverpool: what a sad sight to see. Led by corrupt politicians who service the spiv economy they created, and populated by a growing number of scabs.

"Please Boris, we'll carry out any test events for you".

Liverpool: Rebel City. Do me a 'kin favour.

The thought of 000s of people enjoying themselves must be keeping you up at night.

 

[davek]

You said that there'd be a massive surge when schools reopened - there wasn't, despite mass testing.

You said there'd be a massive serge after April 12th. Well, nearly 3 weeks later and nothing yet.

Now you're saying the same about May 17th.

We know there's a long, long way to go. And I'm sure you're right that come the winter there'll probably be some form of restrictions (large indoor events may have to go from November through to Feb or something which would be crap but probably realistic to expect).

But as it stands, things are looking bright. One step at a time.

No I didn't. I said there'd be a rise in infections. There was.

 

[TommyDavo]

Proper city, never been scared to lead, just that this is the one of the few times we may be followed

 

[CharliePotato]

I posted about this earlier today.

Liverpool: what a sad sight to see. Led by corrupt politicians who service the spiv economy they created, and populated by a growing number of scabs.

"Please Boris, we'll carry out any test events for you".

Liverpool: Rebel City. Do me a 'kin favour.

More like, give us a proper night out we are sick of this rubbish!