BlueStevie35
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You’re going to get the odd few but everywhere I’ve been, every day I’ve boarded a bus, it’s been distanced without fuss
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roydo
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Thats the square I struggle to circle. Or the other way round.
Doing test events, then following the data for a week or two after, is relatively simple. But the jump from what, 8000 in Wembley, all tested and tagged, so to speak, to 90000 seems a long time off.
I mean, there are super positive signs all things vax, and as the science develops, maybe some assistance will come from the labs. But as of now, caution and being realistic are the watchwords.
ForeverBlue92
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Most under 30's would you imagine.
Personally believe now the over 45's are sorted they should have two different vaccine programs running side by side - the current one 30-45 and a seperate one for the under 30's with the Pfizer/Moderna jabs.
Lets be honest the under 30's are/will be the super spreaders once restrictions continue to lift so I see little point in keeping them bottom of the que when they aint eligible for the AZ vaccine anyway.
JLW
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I would no problem I believe it’s done with in this country now.
When I say done I mean under complete control
The issue is that you want to reduce the rate in the community/country/world to as low a rate as possible.
The data suggests vaccines are effective to around 90% which covers 9 in 10 people, but you still need to think about the 10%. And while you might reduce the risk for the 90% it doesnt eliminate it.
Not enough information is known about the ability to transmit after vaccination.
Variants will create further problems where they reduce the effectiveness of the existing vaccines, so potentially needing boosters, and they may prove much more transmissible and deadly than the current known strains.
The lower the rate, the more control you have, the easier it is to track and trace and target. The hygiene, distancing measures are still probably the most effective method of control.
grandjoeblue
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Very different when you get everyone back in offices etc though. Another example - In New York they tried to increase capacity allowed in stadiums to 33% but none of the stadiums can do that with 6 ft of distancing so they had to leave it at 20 odd % max. I just can't see how you can have full capacity venues with social distancing. It's one or the other.
Exactly its all a bit odd. You have to remember 4000 of the 8000 at Wembley were from the surrounding area too. It's a huge jump.
jonnyboy316
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As a 39 year old it pains me to say it but it could make sense to change strategy at this point to get the 18-30 year olds done before the nightclub restrictions are removed
ForeverBlue92
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I don't see why they cant do both tbh mate - 18-30 with Pfizer/Moderna and 30-45 with AZ
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brieverton
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In regard to a return to normal, or near full normal, I have thought for a long time that this isn't on the cards until Spring 2022.
I think the instinct will be for the majority of people to remain cautious, its ingrained in a lot of people now.
The summer will see a progressive improvement whilst still not near normal, and then as the evenings shorten, and temperatures drop, there is bound to be caution from public health bodies and the general public, if not the government itself.
With the winter season, variants, and the likely need for an additional round of booster jabs at the end of the year, for me at least we will not be over this until we have weathered the coming autumn and winter in much the same position, or better than we have things now.
I heard a virologist saying much the same on radio recently. That it would be two years before we could say that this threat has been effectively managed and is under as much as near full control as can be expected.
I think the instinct will be for the majority of people to remain cautious, its ingrained in a lot of people now.
The summer will see a progressive improvement whilst still not near normal, and then as the evenings shorten, and temperatures drop, there is bound to be caution from public health bodies and the general public, if not the government itself.
With the winter season, variants, and the likely need for an additional round of booster jabs at the end of the year, for me at least we will not be over this until we have weathered the coming autumn and winter in much the same position, or better than we have things now.
I heard a virologist saying much the same on radio recently. That it would be two years before we could say that this threat has been effectively managed and is under as much as near full control as can be expected.
PaulPowersTash
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But the nightclub restrictions are not going to be removed.
If anyone actually thinks we are going back to normal on the
21st June they need their head examined. The government have
seized this pandemic to put in controls and restrictions on peoples
liberties than would have been totally unthinkable previously. They are
not just going to give them up overnight. They have just said that the NHS
App is going to contain your COVID passport. Game over!
They will then have ID cards on steroids! Full traceability of where you are and
where you have been 24/7. The longer they drag this out the more it becomes
normality, the more we all accept it. The vaccine has nigh on defeated the virus.
Absolutely no need to extend these Orwellien restrictions for a single day beyond
the 21st June. However, they will be still be going next year. The government
are determined that they will. The people will have to fight to get them lifted.
However, I'm not so sure the people have the will to do so. This is truly 'Project Fear'
and the potential consequences for peoples freedoms and liberties are scary.
What you really mean, is that you want us to remain under restrictions , as your dearest wish, would be that our lives remain under some form of state control forever.
The virus and the vaccine are just a smokescreen for you to push your extreme political views onto anyone who will listen.
You realise the Covid vaccines are based on existing vaccines that work, but they are tweaked for covid?
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