Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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JEBUS_LIVES said:
Organisations are prepared for this type of thing. They test for community outbreak and pandemic scenarios all the time. They have to test business continuity annually and will have done a lot of the awareness and testing needed through no deal Brexit preparation.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be caution, because it clearly has potential to cause significant problems for health systems in the UK, but it's being hyped by the media and people who are inclined to panic.
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Not to nitpick here but I think you are conflating organizations being prepared (which they are) with being prepared for a pandemic (which they aren't). Noone is prepared for a pandemic where millions get ill and between 1-15% of the infected die; even to build that much capacity into the healthcare system for something that might happen once every 100 years is not feasible, to say nothing about ensuring transportation, food supply, power, law and order etc remains up and running when a large % of the workforce is either off or avoiding others. It can't really be practiced for either, unlike normal disasters.
 
People need to get a grip...no easy thing to do I grant you given the British 24 hour media circus trying to outdo themselves with grim forecasts.

Roughly over the same period (October 2019 to the present) there has been 2,800 deaths due to coronavirus; compared to between 15,000 to 30,000 caused by the common flu. Over half a million annually die from the flu globally.

Dont let these turds spook you.
 
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davek said:
People need to get a grip...no easy thing to do I grant you given the British 24 hour media circus trying to outdo themselves with grim forecasts.

Roughly over the same period (October 2019 to the present) there has been 2,800 deaths due to coronavirus; compared to between 15,000 to 30,000 caused by the common flu. Over half a million annually die from the flu globally.

Dont let these turds spook you.
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Agree no need to panic, however lets remember the significant level of quarantining that has gone on to limit COVID 19 spread thus saving lives. It's a balance (that many in the media aren't managing) Just enough concern to understand and accept the need to be quarantined, but avoiding fear mongering.
 
RAFUH said:
Agree no need to panic, however lets remember the significant level of quarantining that has gone on to limit COVID 19 spread thus saving lives. It's a balance (that many in the media aren't managing) Just enough concern to understand and accept the need to be quarantined, but avoiding fear mongering.
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The quarantine in China has gained control over the virus; but that's going to be way too draconian for anywhere in the west. There's going to be a surge of cases of infection, it cant be stopped.

My question would be: what would be the response of media, governments, the stock market etc if 12 months ago they'd been asked to get down the numbers of people dying worldwide from the flu? They'd have looked aghast at the idea of quarantine and disruption on the scale now proposed by many. Yes, the flu can be treated with anti-biotics, but not to the extent of eliminating hundreds of thousands of deaths from it.
 
davek said:
The quarantine in China has gained control over the virus; but that's going to be way too draconian for anywhere in the west. There's going to be a surge of cases of infection, it cant be stopped.

My question would be: what would be the response of media, governments, the stock market etc if 12 months ago they'd been asked to get down the numbers of people dying worldwide from the flu? They'd have looked aghast at the idea of quarantine and disruption on the scale now proposed by many. Yes, the flu can be treated with anti-biotics, but not to the extent of eliminating hundreds of thousands of deaths from the flu.
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Is the problem not more that the flu is a known quantity in terms of how it spreads, its mortality rate, pathology, potential to mutate etc, whereas a new strain of virus spreading unchecked which we know/knew very little about is potentially extremely dangerous?
 
davek said:
The quarantine in China has gained control over the virus; but that's going to be way too draconian for anywhere in the west. There's going to be a surge of cases of infection, it cant be stopped.

My question would be: what would be the response of media, governments, the stock market etc if 12 months ago they'd been asked to get down the numbers of people dying worldwide from the flu? They'd have looked aghast at the idea of quarantine and disruption on the scale now proposed by many. Yes, the flu can be treated with anti-biotics, but not to the extent of eliminating hundreds of thousands of deaths from it.
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At this point no, from what I’ve read probably not as it has spread too far globally.

But its spread can be slowed which gives time for healthcare workers to be equipped, best practices/treatments to be learnt etc. Avoiding a surge of cases all at once will significantly help the healthcare services - big difference between say 5% of a population needing ventilators over a 6 month period and the same % needing them in one month.

Some of the more basic guidance, frequent washing for hands for instance, could well help reduce seasonal flu outbreaks in those areas that currently don’t have any Coronavirus.
 
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