Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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In Ireland as of 8am today, 304 patients in hospital have Covid-19, of which 64 are in ICU... we are still in level 5 lockdown, they are due to review this on the 5th of April, the talk is that we are going to remain in level 5, the vulnerable have mostly been vaccinated at this stage the numbers in hospital are decreasing daily. There has got to be an ulterior motive for keeping us locked up with the 5k exercise limit, they even opened walk in test clinics but for 1 week only, that's right open for the week leading up to the 5th of April, best guess is that they hope is to find loads of asymptomatic people so on the 5th they can say cases are still too high.
Lockdowns are ment to give the health care system time, we've given them time the hospitals are empty, 304 covid positive people in hospital 5 and a half million people at home can't get a barber or go for a beer. It's quite possible that on the day they announced that lockdown continues there will be less than 250 positive in hospital and of those less than 50 in ICU. I'm absolute sick to the tits of this nonsense now.
 
In Ireland as of 8am today, 304 patients in hospital have Covid-19, of which 64 are in ICU... we are still in level 5 lockdown, they are due to review this on the 5th of April, the talk is that we are going to remain in level 5, the vulnerable have mostly been vaccinated at this stage the numbers in hospital are decreasing daily. There has got to be an ulterior motive for keeping us locked up with the 5k exercise limit, they even opened walk in test clinics but for 1 week only, that's right open for the week leading up to the 5th of April, best guess is that they hope is to find loads of asymptomatic people so on the 5th they can say cases are still too high.
Lockdowns are ment to give the health care system time, we've given them time the hospitals are empty, 304 covid positive people in hospital 5 and a half million people at home can't get a barber or go for a beer. It's quite possible that on the day they announced that lockdown continues there will be less than 250 positive in hospital and of those less than 50 in ICU. I'm absolute sick to the tits of this nonsense now.

I guess the question is how have you/they defined "the vulnerable"?
 
I guess the question is how have you/they defined "the vulnerable"?
I dont know, but I'd be confident in saying that if there are just 304 people in hospital that are covid positive then the situation is not sever enough to justify keeping everyone to a 5km from home limit, or not allowing people to meet up in a friend's garden for a chat.
 
I dont know, but I'd be confident in saying that if there are just 304 people in hospital that are covid positive then the situation is not sever enough to justify keeping everyone to a 5km from home limit, or not allowing people to meet up in a friend's garden for a chat.

You dont want it to come back if the vulnerable are not vacced. The vulnerable, UK wise, is the plus 50s, plus folk who are poorly anyrate.
 
Hospital figures - 71 deaths were announced today, up 15 on yesterday and down 17 on last Saturday. 58 deaths were in English hospitals, up 15 on yesterday and down 13 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 69.29

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 58 deaths were announced today, down 12 on yesterday and down 38 on last Saturday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 64.43

For the 60 day cut off, 129 deaths were announced today, down 56 on yesterday and down 58 on last Saturday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 138.57
 
I dont know, but I'd be confident in saying that if there are just 304 people in hospital that are covid positive then the situation is not sever enough to justify keeping everyone to a 5km from home limit, or not allowing people to meet up in a friend's garden for a chat.

Pro rata, you have very slightly better in-hospital figures than the U.K. which Is great. Unfortunately you do not have anything like the U.K. inoculation percentages which keeps driving our numbers down. Your new cases are about 40-50% higher than the U.K., again pro rata, but seem flat and the deaths are at about twice the U.K. numbers, but still low. I don’t know if this helps when comparing your route map against the U.K. route map to exit.....
 
Pro rata, you have very slightly better in-hospital figures than the U.K. which Is great. Unfortunately you do not have anything like the U.K. inoculation percentages which keeps driving our numbers down. Your new cases are about 40-50% higher than the U.K., again pro rata, but seem flat and the deaths are at about twice the U.K. numbers, but still low. I don’t know if this helps when comparing your route map against the U.K. route map to exit.....
I dont think the deaths are higher pre rate than UK, we had 2 deaths today equivalent of maybe 25-30 in the UK.
 
Time to start returning to normal. If the vulnerable all get vaccinated what is the hold up? I'm convinced there are a good number of people who have done well out of lockdown and don't fancy a return to normal. Can't help but wonder if this had hit us 20 or even 10 years ago would covid 19 have been made out to be the threat that it is. It's been indulged by the broadband age. Until recently we would have to have faced up and got on with life. I'm not denying covid and its awful consequences for many but we can't let it dictate every aspect of our daily lives.
 
I was using the 7 day average of 11....there were 20 deaths yesterday apparently....
They have been back dating deaths, most of those would have been in January or February, they allow 3 months for a death to be notified, when it is they lump it in with the next days figures, they tell us that the number includes x amount from January x amount from February, then as it gets announced as a daily figure is skews the rolling average.
 
In Ireland as of 8am today, 304 patients in hospital have Covid-19, of which 64 are in ICU... we are still in level 5 lockdown, they are due to review this on the 5th of April, the talk is that we are going to remain in level 5, the vulnerable have mostly been vaccinated at this stage the numbers in hospital are decreasing daily. There has got to be an ulterior motive for keeping us locked up with the 5k exercise limit, they even opened walk in test clinics but for 1 week only, that's right open for the week leading up to the 5th of April, best guess is that they hope is to find loads of asymptomatic people so on the 5th they can say cases are still too high.
Lockdowns are ment to give the health care system time, we've given them time the hospitals are empty, 304 covid positive people in hospital 5 and a half million people at home can't get a barber or go for a beer. It's quite possible that on the day they announced that lockdown continues there will be less than 250 positive in hospital and of those less than 50 in ICU. I'm absolute sick to the tits of this nonsense now.

Everyone’s going of their nut mate. Have to say I’ve seen both sides of it, I’ve worked frontline through the toughest periods of this and it’s been horffic and despite being fully vaccinated, it’s only Weds since the last time I had to fully gown up, full PPE to be in with a patient.

Then I’m browned off not being able to go to gym, holiday and in general move on with life beyond a trip to the super market. There is little to look forward to even support your mental health in what is the toughest periods I’ve worked through in healthcare.

I think the fear with opening up and I’d share this is we went from 200 cases a day in Dec to 8.2k a day in the middle of January. I’d be pretty clued up on infection and protection control, the Mrs birthday was the Friday before Xmas last year and we went into the City for a bite to eat. I was honestly terrified, knowing what I knew I could see the whole of society interacting in a devil may care was one big COVID soup, I wasn’t surprised we saw the numbers in Jan, we abandoned sanity for Xmas. It was a massive wrench and blow for morale, we spent all last year wrestling with COVID in work and crawled to Xmas for a break, only to be hit with a third wave in Jan because everyone wanted a normal Christmas and were overrun. In all honesty we can’t be trusted.

When you are at home and keeping with restrictions, it seems as if it’s overdone and not making a meaningful diffference, people don’t see what I do and they really do make such a massive difference, it’s only now we are getting a bit of a breather not just from COVID surges, but be able to work with other people who need help that we couldn’t help because of COVID surges.

Restriction are frustrating for everyone, but they really do make a massive difference on the frontline.
 
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