Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Kurt.]

Kurt's great sheep tour begins. Where are you going to venture to first?

Yer mar’s lol

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

I...

Can someone explain to me his logic here, I totally missed this. I genuinely can't make the link as to why a carton of milk would be relevant in any way.

Pretty sure he just nipped out to the corner shop and locked himself out and doesn't want to admit it.

 

[spectateur]

It is uncontested that past vaccines have helped establish herd immunity against infectious diseases eg smallpox and polio. To say herd immunity is 'a fiction' is ridiculous.

Perhaps it's a concept that does not exist in reality.

 

[PhilM]

Yer mar’s lol

Better than my sister. I hope you've got your passport though for when you cross the border.

 

[spectateur]

Well, Milk, right, so you get a pint of milk and then, you walk round with it and that's it really.

Do they still sell milk in pints there? How retro.

 

[davek]

Interesting read on the origin of the U.K. variant from origin to global domination.

How a coronavirus variant tore into an English island - and the world.

Genomic scientists raced against time to find out what was causing the deadly surge in cases despite a national lockdown.

www.reuters.com

The UK Virus has one father: Johnson the butcher.

His failure to get a grip of the situation in this country but rather give business and hospitality in particular free rein brought catastrophe not only on this island but on the rest of the world.

How does that vermin sleep at night nowing he's repsonsible for over a million deaths in the second and third waves?

 

[Kurt.]

Better than my sister. I hope you've got your passport though for when you cross the border.

Is that a euphemism ? lol

 

[Neiler]

Factories added to EU supply chain to boost Covid-19 vaccine rollout

Rules for transport of Pfizer doses eased as EMA approves manufacturing sites

www.irishtimes.com

 

[Neiler]

The UK Virus has one father: Johnson the butcher.

His failure to get a grip of the situation in this country but rather give business and hospitality in particular free rein brought catastrophe not only on this island but on the rest of the world.

How does that vermin sleep at night nowing he's repsonsible for over a million deaths in the second and third waves?

Things look hairy with the SA variant in Europe right now. Close borders and any essential travel regardless of nationality has to be quarenteed, old measures on travel wont work. We have a warning right now, its important to act. We have to learn the lesons from the UK varient and not walk into this like we did in Dec and Jan. Im surprised this isnt getting more media attention. All eyes on vaccine spats at the moment, you wonder should we keeping all our focus on the virology here.

 

[davek]

Things look hairy with the SA variant in Europe right now. Close borders and any essential travel regardless of nationality has to be quarenteed, old measures on travel wont work. We have a warning right now, its important to act. We have to learn the lesons from the UK varient and not walk into this like we did in Dec and Jan. Im surprised this isnt getting more media attention. All eyes on vaccine spats at the moment, you wonder should we keeping all our focus on the virology here.

'kin ell.

It's a shambles.

Whitty again let the cat out of the bag the other day by saying we'd see surges in July or August. I think he must know that the vaccine "route out of the virus" is for the birds.

We are being chummied along from one crisis to the next; one surge and mass death to the next.

I've always thought the vaccines wont be the answer. The answer in behavioural change and tracking outbreaks and suppressing them. The next most uselful thing after that is to have better therepuetics to make sure when Covid19 is contracted it kills less and less people - that's where research cash should be going. The vaccines are a distant third after that, becauese they will always be a step behind variants that will make them practically uselsss.

A vaccine to stop illness every 4/5 months? That's a BS strategy destined to fail...and those in charge know it.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Things look hairy with the SA variant in Europe right now. Close borders and any essential travel regardless of nationality has to be quarenteed, old measures on travel wont work. We have a warning right now, its important to act. We have to learn the lesons from the UK varient and not walk into this like we did in Dec and Jan. Im surprised this isnt getting more media attention. All eyes on vaccine spats at the moment, you wonder should we keeping all our focus on the virology here.

That tweet isn't really factual though is it. The AZ vaccine prevents 100% of deaths from all known variants.

 

[Neiler]

'kin ell.

It's a shambles.

Whitty again let the cat out of the bag the other day by saying we'd see surges in July or August. I think he must know that the vaccine "route out of the virus" is for the birds.

We are being chummied along from one crisis to the next; one surge and mass death to the next.

I've always thought the vaccines wont be the answer. The answer in behavioural change and tracking outbreaks and suppressing them. The next most uselful thing after that is to have better therepuetics to make sure when Covid19 is contracted it kills less and less people - that's where research cash should be going. The vaccines are a distant third after that, becauese they will always be a step behind variants that will make them practically uselsss.

A vaccine to stop illness every 4/5 months? That's a BS a strategy destined to fail.

The vaccines are great mate and key to managing this. But there is a risk spectrum there were they arent the panacea or licence to book a Spanish holiday like you see on the news. In all honesty the E484K - SA and Brazilan should be a concern and focus for us all, we know they really put our Gen 1 vaccines to the test depending on the vaccine. Clear policies on all inward and outward travel are needed as well quarantine. Need to learn the lessons we didnt head in Dec and Jan.

Thats interesting i hadn't heard Whitty comments, i thought more of the "Wash up on our shores" comment during the week - maybe we are all being softened up.

 

[Tubey]

That tweet isn't really factual though is it. The AZ vaccine prevents 100% of deaths from all known variants.

There's a boatload of misinformation from people who really should know better.

If they aren't prepared to research, they shouldn't comment.

 

[Neiler]

That tweet isn't really factual though is it. The AZ vaccine prevents 100% of deaths from all known variants.

Hadn't seen that myself mate, this was the last study i read on AZ up against the SA vairent.

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www.nejm.org

Though id pick a few holes in that study.

I think Pfizer is 6 times less effective on the SA varinet based on the last thing i read.

 

[peteblue]

He’s only looking after himself there mate!

Whats the deal, with the U.K. and France, didn’t yee both build a tunnel or something.....see the French foreign minister at it again today!

The tunnel is now owned by France. It’s in deep financial crap. They want the U.K. to chip in to help with £500M that’s needed, the U.K. is saying it’s yours and nothing to do with us. The french are also looking to put in a high speed rail to Spain, costing approx £500M. They are taking the piss. The little Napoleon wants to be seen as Merkels replacement within the Eu, so he’s acting all tough, saying we can’t have any EU vaccine, even though none of it is developed or manufactured by France. My guess is that if Boris helps out Eurostar this will all go away. Just the French being French .....