Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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toffee82
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Hate needles but I give blood every 12 weeks (can't look whilst it's happening). I went on Monday and was actually excited to get out other than going to work.
Can't wait to get my vaccine.
peteblue
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Gnats piss ?....
Of course, I saw the gnats farm outside, drinking tubes AOTS.
toffee82
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Boils my pi$$ this.
Covid cases, hospital admissions and deaths are plummeting whilst vaccine numbers are still going great. We are so close to getting some sort of normal in this country and idiots carry on like this.
The women's protests and BLM actually had a point to make. Not like the "I want to do what I want" protest we are seeing today.
peteblue
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Spadge Vernacular
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I too am of the opinion that leaving the borders open has been absolute madness but the gov is also advised by economists andSpecification is Whitty (SAGE) According to this report, Whitty has advised the government from day one not to close the borders, because the virus was already here and it was pointless.
Revealed: how Chris Whitty's early advice set the template to keep UK's borders open during Covid crisis
Policy hinged on a Cabinet meeting where Chief Medical Officer said there was no point closing the borders because “it’s already here”www.telegraph.co.uk
We have to appreciate its a pure Tory rag and accuracy and truth is low on the agenda, however, it is very clear on the matter. And seemingly the government blindly followed the advice. Be of no doubt hundreds if not thousands of infected people have been let in and we seem to still be finding new strains from abroad even over the last couple of days...
COVID-19: New Philippines-linked coronavirus variant investigated in England after two cases found
The P3 variant has come from the Philippines, which currently has the second-highest number of COVID-19 cases in South East Asia.news.sky.com
Personally I think leaving the borders wide open with zero Covid controls for the best part of a year, is as bad as the PPE or procrastinating of our lockdowns Schools are safe nonsense or the we are too liberal for face mask debate. All equal in allowing the virus to spread and mutate unabated. If we locked down the borders I suspect locking down the country would have been more effective too. Indeed, I'm only guessing with the logic of common sense I was born with.
If memory serves me correctly the west made the mistake of initially basing projections against influenza and findings such as this paper https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4264390/
Sage minutes, which have been made public, state that;
This info was released to ministers and resulted in Priti Patel and Matt Hancock argued with number 10 for the closure of the borders but they were apparently overruled by Johnson. The grey area or at least wriggle room for Johnson is that even though ministers were advised of the above, SAGE's submission did not advise policy changes thus left the decision open to Johnson.
He no doubt had reports and those around him with views echoing findings such as the report below - which seems a terrible call.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03605-6
Back to my point to Dave which you picked up on, this does not give licence to denigrate the achievements of the UK scientific community, regardless of anything that Whitty, as an individual has or hasn't done, in my opinion.
I had to go in to Westminster this afternoon. Went for a walk after to stretch my legs and came across these protestors, a weird mix of little Englander type chavs and Glasto hippies.
There are hundreds upon hundreds of police as well, scores of police vans screeching around in convoy and "territorial support" units who are properly tooled up.
Lots of abuse flying around, it definitely has the potential to kick off.
So I'm on the train home
toffee82
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I had to go in to Westminster this afternoon. Went for a walk after to stretch my legs and came across these protestors, a weird mix of little Englander type chavs and Glasto hippies.
There are hundreds upon hundreds of police as well, scores of police vans screeching around in convoy and "territorial support" units who are properly tooled up.
Lots of abuse flying around, it definitely has the potential to kick off.
So I'm on the train home
I like your trainers!
Croda have more plats in the EU then the UK mate.
I respect your opinion, i dont agree with it on this occasion. The way i look at it is there a disagreement between the EU and UK, without Jingoism my own personal opinion is on balance the EU have a case - that not me polarising, im delighted to see the UK get on, its just were i sit with it after looking into it myself, im sure we will disagree, but thats ok to.
Nah its great to see the UK get on, i lived and work there so i dont really think it of it nationalistic, regional terms. But its being over egged a bit, i think there is a long way to go and many twists and turns, but its nice for the UK and a morale booster after a tough year, so its all understandable.
My views on the exports/imports are on record here, ive huge admiration for the UK on the roll out, less so on the supply chain.
TheSecondComing
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Come in here for some hot takes as to how these lot of protestors are worse than last weekends one.... glad to say I found some.
TheSecondComing
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hold on you can’t pick and choose which protest are ok?
Sure Patel would like to commission a new chief of Protests under her new crimes bill.
Call that one off, allow that one.
Both sides have to accept that protests are either allowed or not allowed not just ones that suit their political agenda
Toast
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I don’t even know what they are protesting for ? (Genuinely like )
They all look like they are taking plenty of nice photos of the event though..
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