Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[peteblue]

...not no issues. And there is a question mark over just when these events have been occuring (days, weeks, months).

What issues have there been in the U.K. ?....

 

[SussexToffee]

I can’t remember who it was on here who said that they would start to ramp up from mid March. Mid March is tomorrow. But personally I think we are doing Ok as it is tbh.....

Indeed, especially since the numbers reported on the Monday are usually in the 100,000 zone.

 

[peteblue]

The obvious reason that they have been linked with a deady side effect.

There is no ‘link’ to a deadly side effect.....

 

[SussexToffee]

What lack of confidence?

Indeed, especially since our regulator is saying there’s nothing wrong with the AZ vaccine, it’s still being rolled out and the daily figures are still good for each day of the week when it’s compared with each one like for like from the previous week (I.e. last five Mondays all compared together for example).

 

[roydo]

The obvious reason that they have been linked with a deady side effect.

But it hasnt.

If you believe it is, just dont get a jab.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Setting a very dangerous precedent these countries halting the AZ, now is not the time to mess about when protecting people should be top priority

 

[roydo]

Setting a very dangerous precedent these countries halting the AZ, now is not the time to mess about when protecting people should be top priority

In the modern world of social media, its bad news.

We see it at times on here.

 

[Prevenger17]

Lol yep. Not sure why so much is being made of this. In all likelihood, the AZ vaccine will be cleared and this turns out to just be the precautionary measure that it is. The probability of there being an issue is incredibly low, but when you're planning on jabbing a whole population, I'd imagine you'd want to be 100% certain you know what you're jabbing them with

 

[tsubaki]

Indeed, especially since our regulator is saying there’s nothing wrong with the AZ vaccine, it’s still being rolled out and the daily figures are still good for each day of the week when it’s compared with each one like for like from the previous week (I.e. last five Mondays all compared together for example).

TBF that is not exactly what the MHRA have said - they've said they don't think the AZ vaccine is the cause based on the evidence available, but they are keeping an eye on it.

It has not been confirmed that the reports of blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine. People should still go and get their COVID-19 vaccine when asked to do so.

[Withdrawn] Further MHRA response to the precautionary suspensions of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca

It has not been confirmed that the reports of blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine. People should still go and get their COVID-19 vaccine when asked to do so.

www.gov.uk

 

[tsubaki]

Setting a very dangerous precedent these countries halting the AZ, now is not the time to mess about when protecting people should be top priority

this is about protecting people, though - thats why they say they've taken this step

 

[BlueStevie35]

this is about protecting people, though - thats why they say they've taken this step

If there were thousands of cases of clotting/thrombosis I’d agree with you but there’s literally been around what 20-30 cases. There’s been around the same with the Pfizer, why hasn’t that been paused?

 

[Prevenger17]

If there were thousands of cases of clotting/thrombosis I’d agree with you but there’s literally been around what 20-30 cases. There’s been around the same with the Pfizer, why hasn’t that been paused?

Tbf mate, we don't have access to all the data, and countries will have different regulatory thresholds. It's just a precaution like

 

[BlueToff]

Lol yep. Not sure why so much is being made of this. In all likelihood, the AZ vaccine will be cleared and this turns out to just be the precautionary measure that it is. The probability of there being an issue is incredibly low, but when you're planning on jabbing a whole population, I'd imagine you'd want to be 100% certain you know what you're jabbing them with

It's probably the right decision to pause if they're worried. Just, as soon as they clear it - which I'm sure it will be - start it up again. As long as that happens, unless another vaccine arrives to market in the next week, it's sound.

I think the UK have recorded more blood clots in people who have had Pfizer than AZ, the numbers are like sub-20 for both. It's basically a nothing link, but better to be safe than sorry I suppose, if those countries who have used less AZ than the UK has are seeing similar numbers.

 

[peteblue]

If there were thousands of cases of clotting/thrombosis I’d agree with you but there’s literally been around what 20-30 cases. There’s been around the same with the Pfizer, why hasn’t that been paused?

Don’t be silly, that was done in Germany.....

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

you mentioned them in relation to this decision

I said that they are seemingly continuing to politicise the vaccine situation and that EU leaders have clearly stoked fears without any clear justification.