Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Simon Buttle
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Just got my first jab booked for next Friday morning
This.
The vaccine isn't the entire solution. But to downplay its importance is ludicrous.
Everywhere needs to be vaccinating as many people as they can as quickly as possible. Do that, this illness becomes much less serious, and then the health systems are able to manage it like any other respiratory disease.
davek
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For the flu, for example? What % of the world population get that every year as opposed to what's being targeted for Covid19 vaccine?
Logistically, its on a different level.
davek
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I'm not playing it down. And you have just underlined my point that it's idiotic to view the vaccines as the way out of this. So, basically, you just objected to my use of the word idiot.
roydo
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Like I said, which you ironically laughed at, you dont seem to grasp what a vaccine actually does.
Whitty said this a few weeks ago.
He expected it to start in early March. Basically, say we're jabbing 500k (average) atm, well right now only 50k of those are second jabs.
That could start to change to about 150k second jabs in the coming weeks, so that's a 100k drop off. And then yeah as the spring rolls on that number will tick up.
The good news is that while the AZ keeps up, we also have a big number of Moderna secured, which should arrive in April, and then there's the J&J and Novavax vaccines which could be here by or in May, too.
You said the vaccine isn’t key. That’s playing it down, without the vaccine we don’t get back to a way of living.
davek
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A vaccine is meant to trigger enough anti-bodies to mimic the virus and fight off infection - enough people get it then a herd immunity on scientific terms is achieved....but we know that enough wont get it and that variants will always be with us and the vaccines will need adaptation - and I'm saying that just wont be possible.
roydo
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Why not? We do it already.
davek
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...but this is a global pandemic so you're only as good as your weakest link...and we have porous borders that the Tories are determined to keep open come hell or high water.
How have they?
COVID - in the vast, vast majority of people - is nothing worse than a bad cough or fever.
In some people, it knocks them sick for much longer.
Some of those people need hospital.
Some of those people need ventilators.
Some of those die.
The vaccines - across all of the above categories - are 100% proven to significantly reduce severe illness. That covers those last three categories, at the very least, and probably gives a significant chance of reducing people getting sick (but not needing hospital) for a sustained amount of time, too.
So then, the illness becomes like any other respiratory illness. It's here, but we live with it. We can't eradicate it, but every year there'll be booster jabs (this has already been said by the powers that be, and I believe it's now Pfizer's main focus??) to target people who are most likely to be at risk to new variants.
davek
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For what? Flu?
As far as I can tell 200M jabs of that worldwide last year. That's a drop in the ocean.
Oooh, I know this one.
To hopefully stop people dying, spreading it to others and to get the world back on its feet ?
gav1985
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You constantly calling people idiots etc is unnecessary. It's easy to disagree without it but whatever.
I haven't once said vaccines alone are the way out because they aren't. They are though a large part of it whether you think they are or not. without them we have zero chance. You constantly talk them down. Not sure how you can say you aren't playing them down.
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