Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Well, there hasn't been a pandemic for a 100 years. So, it's kind of unprecedented.

Other countries with more experience dealt with it better, and Aus and NZ - due to their geographical location - were able to follow the SARS model and isolate/suppress the virus.
Not all sweetness and light down under.
Hotel Quarantine was an accident waiting to happen...and it did - a few times.
At the start of it all Custom and Immigration and Port of Sydney Medical people, each decided it was the others jurisdiction to say if 100s and 100s of cruise passengers could or could not disembark...so the passengers literally voted with their feet and did a runner - some halfway round the world back home.

Then only the other day the Govt. started its vaccination programme...of the baby steps variety just yet.
But, as is the nature of tories...even the lite types we have...they contracted it out to a private concern.
Who hired doctors by the dozen
Those little bottles you see all the time actually hold 4 doses...newly hired Dr who the actual 'k, only gave half a dozen old dolls in the care home the full bottle...no apparent after effects...so far.

One of the Tory mantras is User Pays...but the user who pays could be your nanna.
 
I think you’re reading some other persons posts Tubey - I’ve said (repeatedly) already that people would only be told to isolate if they’ve got something that poses a risk, the vast majority would either have nothing or nothing serious (so your two weeks for a cough point is wrong).

The most important thing with any system that has to detect problems is that it can do so quickly enough to try and fix them.

If we are going to have a system that can pick up illnesses like this quickly, it’s going to have to rely on people reporting symptoms.

OK, to be clear, if someone has an existing strain of COVID, would they need to self-isolate?

Also, for the 2-3 days it takes for a positive test to come back (and a second positive to rule out false positives), would those people need to isolate for that period?
 
Just got back from Hospital got to have a small operation....... Soon ......a small stone in my kidney........

I had a kidney stone about 20-25 years ago, the pain was excruciating. The doctors decided to see if it would pass naturally. I had to pee in a jar then pour away until it did eventually pass through. When it did, I couldn’t believe how small the bloody thing was, like a grain of sand yet had caused so much pain. I hope you get sorted quickly Joey and don’t suffer too much discomfort in the meantime......
 
I had a kidney stone about 20-25 years ago, the pain was excruciating. The doctors decided to see if it would pass naturally. I had to pee in a jar then pour away until it did eventually pass through. When it did, I couldn’t believe how small the bloody thing was, like a grain of sand yet had caused so much pain. I hope you get sorted quickly Joey and don’t suffer too much discomfort in the meantime......
Likewise i had a kidney stone about 10 years ago and ended up in Hospital on a morphine drip, the pain was far, far worse than when i had shattered my leg!! and like you the doctor just waited for me to pass it through and it ended up a tiny little thing like you say. Honestly though i would'nt wish that on anyone it's brutal (well maybe the odd kopite)
 
21 days is only three weeks, there is some evidence and an increasing likelihood that the immune response increases for several weeks after that, even after four weeks it's greater than three.

The data goes up to four weeks mate, 60% at that mark. It pretty much followes what Pfizer recommend. I don’t know why the data stopped there, it’s public health England so you can draw any conclusion on that really. The 4 week to 12 week data , would be really useful not just for the UK, but the rest of the world if it proved to be a master stroke!
 
OK, to be clear, if someone has an existing strain of COVID, would they need to self-isolate?

Also, for the 2-3 days it takes for a positive test to come back (and a second positive to rule out false positives), would those people need to isolate for that period?

Yes, and I’d said 1-2 days (not 2-3, there’s no requirement to wait for second test) but they’d be asked to isolate for that period, until the test results come back.
 
Yes, and I’d said 1-2 days (not 2-3, there’s no requirement to wait for second test) but they’d be asked to isolate for that period, until the test results come back.

But this is where it falls down too imo, because the vast majority of illnesses last 1-2 days, and if they last more than that, then people tend to really know about it?

Is it really realistic that somebody is going to isolate for 24-48 hours waiting for a test result when they could well feel better before that test even comes back?
 
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