Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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England. Pharmacies and even NHS hospitals have to pay 20% vat on medicines. Which they will pass on

Doesnt make sense for prescription drugs. You are either excempt, or pay the prescription charge. I was prescribed sommet once, and the pharmacist told me its cheaper to buy the branded one in the shop rather than pay the prescription charge.
 
Hospital figures - 610 deaths were announced today, up 124 on yesterday and down 143 on last Wednesday. 522 deaths were in English hospitals, up 48 on yesterday and down 122 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 475.29

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 738 deaths were announced today, down 61 on yesterday and down 263 on last Wednesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 583.14

For the 60 day cut off, 1014 deaths were announced today, up 20 on yesterday and down 212 on last Wednesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 733.14
 
stop getting aroused by dominoes flyers and stop eating as much ffs.

Being fat isn't a medical condition, do something about it
Actually people can put on weight due to medical conditions such as underactive thyroids, diabetes (not everybody at first diagnosis is overweight but the insulin and other meds over the years can start weigh gain plus snacking regularly to keep there blood sugar in normal levels), being on steroid treatment for other conditions, polycystic ovaries ( I won’t bother going on as you probably don’t care by this point) but there just a few medical conditions that can cause a person to be overweight. Yes there are people obviously out there who are fat due to there own excess, but you can’t really generalise everybody when you don’t know the reasons behind it so it isn’t your place to judge.
 
stop being such a sensitive creature. I have every right to be a little peeved that someone born with a chronic lung condition has been shunted down the list, whilst someone who makes no effort to look after their health and basically puts 2 fingers up to the NHS by eating far too much stays on it.
Where do I start with this?

What do you consider to be a chronic lung condition?. My sister in law has a chronic lung condition and she was categorised in group 4 for the vaccine, which she had about 3 weeks ago. There are millions of asthma sufferers in the UK and some are considered more severe than others. The more severe cases have not been excluded from group 6. If you are not in this group, which I suspect not given you were fit enough to undertake 40km daily bike rides during the last lockdown (unless I'm confusing you with another poster) then the powers that be have decided that you are at a lower risk of dying or being seriously ill from the disease. This decision would have been based on existing data. Only the morbidly obese (1.4m with a BMI above 40) have been included in group 6, and this will be because the data shows that they are at a higher risk that the milder asthma sufferers. I myself have mild asthma, and as far as I'm aware was never included in group 6 originally, and am quite happy that those in higher risk, whatever the reason, should get the vaccine before me.

But notwithstanding all the above, it's the way you just assume that everybody who is overweight because they are lazy and eat too much that really disses me off. My wife started piling on the pounds in her mid 30s. At 40 she was diagnosed with an under active thyroid and has lived with that condition for 20 years. Her body doesn't produce enough thyroxine, the hormone that controls the bodies metabolism, and even though she is on the maximum prescription allowed, it's still not enough. On top of that, following breast cancer 7 years ago she was put on hormone treatment that also makes her put on weight. Probably due to her weight she now has issues with both her knees and her hips, and has also recently been diagnosed with osteoporosis due to the hormone medication she has been taking. So the upshot is that she is unable to exercise anywhere near as much as she would like to. And to top it all the whole weight/illness thing is having a toll on her mental health.

That's just 2 medical issues that have caused my wife's obesity. There are literally millions out there that suffer similar illnesses as her, and there are probably numerous other medical issues that also cause you to put on weight. Of the 1.4m morbidly obese in England, over two thirds are women, and I would put money on the vast majority of those having underlying medical issues that have caused it.

So please don't try and insult my intelligence again by telling me that obesity cannot be caused by medical issues. And if it makes you feel better, my wife's BMI is well below 40, so you can rest assured that she won't be one of the fat people who will be getting her jab before you.
 
Infection numbers are worrying.

They won't allow any restrictions to be reduced whilst cases are so high.
It's winter. People are still largely indoors. The vaccines are nowhere near rolled out - not even a single jab regime never mind the much needed 2 jab regime. The economy (despite all the hype about it) is not locked down in the way it was last spring.

Is it any wonder the cases are still so high?

It does, however, as you rightly say, mean that any nonsense about ending restrictions this side of May need to be binned. It should never have been up for discussion until the virus was suppressed. All the bollox talked of balances between health and wealth is exactly that: bollox. This is a national catastrophe we're going through, and the corporate fascists in the Tory Party congregated around the Orwellian named Covid Recovery Group should have the whip removed from them. They are a danger to the nation.
 
England. Pharmacies and even NHS hospitals have to pay 20% vat on medicines. Which they will pass on
Wrong. Pharmacies are not allowed to pass on if medicines are sold on prescription, but they can still claim back VAT paid out on their VAT return.

if you pay VAT on yours it's because it is not on prescription. And if you don't get a prescription for your asthma I'd question how severe it actually is. I only have mild asthma and so far have never been given a prescription.
 
Infection numbers are worrying.

They won't allow any restrictions to be reduced whilst cases are so high.
People’s actions haven’t changed.
Social distancing is long gone.
It won’t change now either.

The only thing that has changed is having a vaccine.
Talk about getting lucky.
 
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