Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Didn't see it mate, but interesting - the are using just the Mrna jabs at the moment, id like to see the see the logic - did they say why they went that way @LinekersLegs will probably have the right of it.

Looks like we are going to use AZ on over 65 over here, if what i heard this morning is correct.
The logic was that they fear a surge in the more infectious variants and - though acknowledging the manufacturer's guidelines on 3 week gap between 1st and 2nd jab - they see the idea of vaccines hanging about for 2nd jabs in such a scenario as not getting ahead of the problem.
 
Were they in lockdown then though? I haven't been following it tbh. But maybe the combination of lockdown and summer meant that it was easier to bring down the infection rate. Had it been lockdown combined with the middle of winter perhaps the infection rate would still be up there.

Haven't a clue tbh, just trying to come up with an explanation.
It's come down all of a sudden, however.

I'm not informed about the SA situation either. Which is why I asked others.
 
Yes. It's a virus behaving...erm...like a virus.

All the new headlines are for the 24 hour news cycle. They love it.
Definitely, new variants are very much the new news story despite the fact they have been occuring for quite some time.

Obviously they may have an impact on the performance of the vaccine but it will be interesting to see how long they can report new variants for. There are going to be countless new variants over the next few years.
 
Southport though. Is there a large South African community in that town or what?

It's all very strange. Mind you, Southport is strange.
 
It was a conversation at the end of an unrelated call - but the institute is working with SAGE so very little chance that they are mistaken. They did say it was a synthetic lab study so not definitive.

one does doesn't seem to be effective in killing the virus but does stop people being very ill from it.

2 does kill the SA Variant.

This study was done on 15 people and half of them did kill the virus.

Scaremongering again
 
I understand that but I don't think it can be described as meaningless, these progress charts may end up being used in correlation to infection or hospitalisation rates and we can't dismiss them because they don't show us in a favourable light. All info will be valuable especially when comparing different stratagies, hopefully all goes well and this information is only needed for future plans against possible pandemics

I don't understand the not favourable bit tbh, it stands to reason if you actively follow a policy of not performing the second vaccination until three months later, you will be behind in tables showing second dose vaccinations. If you don't do something how can you be high on a table that shows incidence of that thing being done?

One thing follows from the other, but it is a conscious strategy, if you choose not to jump over a wall for half an hour while other boys repeatedly spend their half hour doing so,. Charts of who jumped over the wall the most would have you bottom, that's not unfavourable but expected, you chose not to do so.

The one dose is a strategy which may or may not be the best alternative to tackle the disease by giving far more of the vulnerable some immunity rather than a far smaller percentage a greater immunity, but it is a conscious strategy.

This chart is really not showing anything as about whether or not it's the correct strategy, just the equivalent of the boy who chose not to jump over the wall didn't actually do so.

It's still remarkable in one respect, that despite pursuing such a conscious policy of a three month gap, in effect no second vaccinations after very early January, we've still vaccinated more than Germany who haven't followed such a policy.
 
Definitely, new variants are very much the new news story despite the fact they have been occuring for quite some time.

Obviously they may have an impact on the performance of the vaccine but it will be interesting to see how long they can report new variants for. There are going to be countless new variants over the next few years.
I see it this way: there's been a massive claim for the vaccines - one that maybe we should all have been a bit more sceptical about. Not that they wont help, but that they'll be the silver bullet. The variants angle are the various government and scientific team/Big Pharma way of not having to row back from their, perhaps, OTT claims?

A mere theory. We are, of course, being jollied along in this crisis and told stuff to keep out hopes and spirits up until the back of this virus is broken.
 
one does doesn't seem to be effective in killing the virus but does stop people being very ill from it.

2 does kill the SA Variant.

This study was done on 15 people and half of them did kill the virus.

Scaremongering again
No, it definitely wasn't the environment for nor individuals prone to scaremongering! I assume the findings have been released now though.

Edit: yes
 
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