Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[peteblue]

I think cool heads like Barnier will have hit the roof, Merkel also

Ursula has over reached herself

She was a nonentity in the German government and is failing spectacularly at the moment.....*prays for VDL.....

 

[BlueStevie35]

But we're not. The jabs aren;t being used properly. They are spaced apart by months and many scientists are warning it risks losing any advantage in getting the first jab quicker than other nations.

If the decision had been to put 2 jabs in the arms of all over-80s by end of February then you'd have an argument. But that chance was taken away because this lot allowed the economy to stay open and spread the infection, hospitalisation and fatality rate to get wildy out of hand so they switch to spreading the jab out over many more of the population.

It's a brain dead decision by a brain dead government.

12% of the country, mostly of the older bracket have had 1 if not both jabs already and we’re only at the end of January

 

[Tubey]

I expect all references to it on EU websites are being furiously deleted......

The funny thing is that they wrote paragraphs explaining why it was definitely necessary and it had to be done, and now an hour or so later... "oh, forget all that, whoopsiedaisy!"

 

[peteblue]

We'd have more people who've had their second jabs, pete (ie: been actually vaccinated)- the number of people with their first jab would be lower (probably 4-5 million) but the actually vaccinated people (with two doses and confirmed protection) would probably be 2-3 million.

That would still more than anyone else in Europe, and we wouldn't run the risk of having to do it again (pfizer have repeatedly said that they do not know if delaying the second jab to up to 12 weeks will work).

I think I’ll trust our scientists and medical people tbh. The AZ vaccine was developed here after all, and we appear to be quite good at this.....

 

[Blues Harp]

I think cool heads like Barnier will have hit the roof, Merkel also

Ursula has over reached herself

Have we expelled all the brown and black people from our glorious land ?

 

[BlueToff]

No, we aren't pete - we are injecting loads of people with the first dose of a vaccine. We could (and should) have actually vaccinated many more people than we have.

More people with some protection = better than less people with '100%' protection when it comes to suppressing the virus. This is the calculated risk they are taking.

 

[peteblue]

I think cool heads like Barnier will have hit the roof, Merkel also

Ursula has over reached herself

TBF she has probably been bounced into this by the Brussels bureaucracy.......

 

[tsubaki]

I think I’ll trust our scientists and medical people tbh. The AZ vaccine was developed here after all, and we appear to be quite good at this.....

not really seeing that, tbh - I mean, have they given our medics legal cover for not using a medicine in the way the manufacturer described?

 

[peteblue]

not really seeing that, tbh - I mean, have they given our medics legal cover for not using a medicine in the way the manufacturer described?

AZ are quite happy, no one in the U.K. is seriously complaining, and god knows they would do, and even Pfizer have not jumped up and down as they would have to if they believed it was the wrong thing to do.....

 

[BlueToff]

not really seeing that, tbh - I mean, have they given our medics legal cover for not using a medicine in the way the manufacturer described?

Well, AZ is tested and proved to be more efficient at 12 weeks.

Pfizer - I agree, it would have been sensible to keep to their advice or, alternatively, go with six weeks as a halfway house, like Denmark are doing.

But, still, the aim is to get more people with more protection. As the likes of @Tubey and @MikelsGoat have previously said - posters who have been fairly or fully critical and rightly so of the government - the logic makes perfect sense. And so far, there hasn't actually been any cases of it not working. We're going to have to hope that stays the same.

But since the majority of our population will be getting AZ, then giving them dosage over three months is absolutely fine as that's actually been proven to work.

 

[edge]

TBF she has probably been bounced into this by the Brussels bureaucracy.......

True,

 

[Tubey]

Have we expelled all the brown and black people from our glorious land ?

Not on that tbh

 

[Tramps_mate]

My dad was sent a message to log online to book his first vaccine shot yesterday.

Living in Southport his location options were, Lancaster!! Stoke!?!... And thankfully Ainsdale.

He chose the day and time and was then asked to book a slot for the second jab in 12 weeks time..

No slots available. Unable to book a second slot the booking was unable to complete and he couldn't book the first jab!!

He just turned the computer off. Bloody ridiculous.

 

[tsubaki]

AZ are quite happy, no one in the U.K. is seriously complaining, and god knows they would do, and even Pfizer have not jumped up and down as they would have to if they believed it was the wrong thing to do.....

they kind of have pete:

No data to support delay of second Covid vaccine dose, say Pfizer and BioNTech

UK vaccine strategy continuing to spark fierce scientific debate

www.independent.co.uk

for companies to issue a joint statement like that is really unusual

 

[Blues Harp]