Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

Erm... no.

Macron: AstraZeneca vaccine seems ‘quasi-ineffective’ on older people

French president’s remarks came shortly before EU regulator approved jab for all adults.

www.politico.eu

Macron claims Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid vaccine ‘quasi-ineffective’ for older people

French president criticises UK’s rollout strategy amid row over EU delay

www.independent.co.uk

Macron calls for Covid vaccine exports from EU to be controlled

French president bemoans ‘questionable behaviour’ and says deliveries ‘do not honour’ contractual agreements

www.theguardian.com

The timing might be off, but what he's said there on both counts is essentially correct: the UK government abandoned its strategy (the strategy adopted worldwide) of spacing out jabs by 3 weeks to one where the 2nd is administered way down the line, despite warnings from its manufacturers; and the data on efficacy for over-65s is simply not there with the AZ jab.

This government are gambling with our lives. And it takes a foreign politician to pipe up about it, to the utter shame of the British Labour Party.

 

[arminisgod]

they can stop the AZ vaccines pete - some destined for the UK are (or at least were being) manufactured in the EU; thats what got them so riled

They wont though... they daren't

 

[tsubaki]

They wont though... they daren't

Stop EU produced AZ vaccines going to the UK? Its a much less provocative move than stopping Pfizer would be, and it would help expose what AZ look like they've been doing.

 

[peteblue]

they can stop the AZ vaccines pete - some destined for the UK are (or at least were being) manufactured in the EU; thats what got them so riled

The U.K. is not getting AZ vacs from Europe I believe. NI has already given more jabs than the ROI and the U.K. will make sure they continue to receive the vaccines. The EU really shouldn’t have brought them into this...pure stupidity....

 

[wainy]

EU fuming that vaccines manufactured in the UK won’t be going to them. Let them fume. And now they are playing games with Northern Ireland. It’s fairly obvious how this relationship is going to go, and whilst I was an ardent remainer, we need to be firm and make our stance clear, we are not to be taken for fools.

 

[arminisgod]

The U.K. is not getting AZ vacs from Europe I believe. NI has already given more jabs than the ROI and the U.K. will make sure they continue to receive the vaccines. The EU really shouldn’t have brought them into this...pure stupidity....

correct. All uk vaccines have been produced in the uk and sent to the EU for packing, then sent back

 

[arminisgod]

Stop EU produced AZ vaccines going to the UK? Its a much less provocative move than stopping Pfizer would be, and it would help expose what AZ look like they've been doing.

Sorry, i thought you said Pfizer

 

[wainy]

The U.K. is not getting AZ vacs from Europe I believe. NI has already given more jabs than the ROI and the U.K. will make sure they continue to receive the vaccines. The EU really shouldn’t have brought them into this...pure stupidity....

mainly manufactured in the UK. I’m sure we will have the same game over the novavax being manufactured in billingham

 

[tsubaki]

The U.K. is not getting AZ vacs from Europe I believe. NI has already given more jabs than the ROI and the U.K. will make sure they continue to receive the vaccines. The EU really shouldn’t have brought them into this...pure stupidity....

we were, at least according to many reports

the NI jabs have (IIRC) all come from the mainland UK, not the ROI

 

[peteblue]

The timing might be off, but what he's said there on both counts is essentially correct: the UK government abandoned its strategy (the strategy adopted worldwide) of spacing out jabs by 3 weeks to one where the 2nd is administered way down the line, despite warnings from its manufacturers; and the data on efficacy for over-65s is simply not there with the AZ jab.

This government are gambling with our lives. And it takes a foreign politician to pipe up about it, to the utter shame of the British Labour Party.

Why is the leader of a country failing with its vaccination programme concerned about how a country that has done 12% of its population decides its strategy. He is embarrassed by what he has not done and hopes a bit of Brit bashing will get him off the hook...it won’t.....

 

[peteblue]

we were, at least according to many reports

the NI jabs have (IIRC) all come from the mainland UK, not the ROI

Nothing is coming from the ROI. The only thing the EU can stop is the Pfizer vaccine, not the AZ.....

 

[tsubaki]

Nothing is coming from the ROI. The only thing the EU can stop is the Pfizer vaccine, not the AZ.....

AZ produce vaccine in Europe, pete.

 

[arminisgod]

AZ produce vaccine in Europe, pete.

not for the UK though

 

[peteblue]

I wonder if the ROI were even told what the EU were about to do to NI, certainly the U.K. wasn’t........

 

[peteblue]

AZ produce vaccine in Europe, pete.

For the EU....that’s why they are moaning because the EU plant is not up to speed....