Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I really don’t get this school closure action. This will drag the economy into the gutter. They are also saying don’t leave children with aged parents, well I am an aged parent and I will be looking after my granddaughter no matter what they say. We have been bounced into this with the panic from the EU, Wales and Scotland. It is the final lunacy that will break our back........

The EU? Countries have been acting more or less independently, closing borders and tackling the issue in their own ways. There hasn't been an EU mandate for action carried uniformly across it's member countries.

As for schools having spoken to a couple of receptionists at different schools they are struggling to function anything like normally given rates of absence among both staff and pupils. Maintaining the current course is fast becoming futile if you speak to the people there first hand.

There really isn't a solution that solves both problems of the economy and the spread of Covid-19. The idea of a skeleton staff system effectively working as a daycare system for the kids of essential workers isn't ideal but that doesn't necessarily make it a terrible idea. It's unknown territory.

Things like this will cause huge damage to the economy regardless and it's already in the gutter. Over a million have been laid off already and there's more every hour.
 
I really don’t get this school closure action. This will drag the economy into the gutter. They are also saying don’t leave children with aged parents, well I am an aged parent and I will be looking after my granddaughter no matter what they say. We have been bounced into this with the panic from the EU, Wales and Scotland. It is the final lunacy that will break our back........

To be honest [Poor language removed] like you should be charged with murder.

Its just wilful disregard for human life.
 
Got a contact in the Army. Who says they've been asked to plan for troop deployments to main supermarkets as crowd control to stop potential food riots. The Govt is now extremely worried. My guess is that they're expecting major supply chain problems in the coming weeks.

Could just be part of standard civil unrest contingency planning - no need to panic lads!



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Get me a lawnmower , a canoe , a ski suit and a compressor
I’ll take 2 dozen big rolls as well if they have them
 
My lad got sent home for coughing today.
Nowt wrong with him.

But I believe the teacher sickness is very high.
So the shut down was inevitable.
PHE have provided categories of people that should be exercising social distancing due to being vulnerable. This includes anyone who gets the flu jab. Cue loads of anxious staff unsure if they should leave or not. Add to that now 14 days isolating for anyone in the same household as someone with mild symptoms, pregnant ladies being included in the 'vulnerable' group and you've got a whole load of people with reasons not to come in (and genuinely anxious about it) before you even consider those who are actually sick.
 
Got a contact in the Army. Who says they've been asked to plan for troop deployments to main supermarkets as crowd control to stop potential food riots. The Govt is now extremely worried. My guess is that they're expecting major supply chain problems in the coming weeks.

Could just be part of standard civil unrest contingency planning - no need to panic lads!



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@marnie

 
I do understand this . My only struggle with it is that without a vaccine then ,to use a Brexit phrase , aren’t we just kicking the can down the road ? Unless lockdown is for actual months if not years then isn’t there a real danger of it simply starting again once The lockdown is lifted ? Once people go back to work or you open the pubs ? Or is this the new normal , In which case whose producing the things we need for everyday society ? If we were looking at a lockdown and vigorous testing it’d make significantly more sense if I’m honest .

Like I say it’s probably a stupid question and I can see the time can be utilised to become more prepared by producing ventilators or PPE so that does make sense .
Provided the restrictions have done what we all hope they do, ie bring the exponential spread down, and provided we have the testing capacity, we can put in place efforts like Singapore and S Korea where they focus on rapidly controlling small clusters.

They trace where the infected person has been and test everyone who has come into contact(even those not showing symptoms) and then try to get them into a hospital so they don’t spread it on to family. It is pretty resource intensive but it is at the front end which you can ramp up easier rather than the back end which is ICU staff that are much harder to train.

An analogy I saw was with fire - if you have limited numbers of isolated fires then you can send a load of firefighters to put out single blazes quickly and make sure you have a quick response to other flare ups from floating embers. However once a tinder-rich area is out of control the best you can do is try to control it in that one area with fire breaks.
 
I didn't say anything about Brexiteers??
Dunno why you‘ve brought Brexit into it? I’ve got family members who voted Brexit, and I’ve had lively disagreements with them over the last 3 years, however am extremely concerned about them, as I love them dearly and they’re smack bang in the high risk zone.

Believe it or not, you can disagree with someone’s politics without hating them.

But you go ahead and smile wryly.
I'm sure this has been asked but if infuenza kills so many people especially old and sick I wonder why don't we take similar precautions? seems a bit absurd to approach them so differently to me.(and the media reporting on each virus differs so vastly) UK has plans to deal with pandemic causing up to 315,000 …https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-compare-influenza/
Public Health England estimates that on average 17,000 people have died from the flu in England annually between 2014/15 and 2018/19.

Just a thought.
 
PHE have provided categories of people that should be exercising social distancing due to being vulnerable. This includes anyone who gets the flu jab. Cue loads of anxious staff unsure if they should leave or not. Add to that now 14 days isolating for anyone in the same household as someone with mild symptoms, pregnant ladies being included in the 'vulnerable' group and you've got a whole load of people with reasons not to come in (and genuinely anxious about it) before you even consider those who are actually sick.
My lad was clearing his throat. Genuinely.
He gets up at 5.30am every day and gets the train into school. He refused to move schools when we moved house.
He's doing his GCSE this summer.
He was wearing a face mask on trains etc and we check his temp every day.. he's fine.

I realise the tension involved with teachers, but this was a bit daft.. only in my opinion.
 
I'm sure this has been asked but if infuenza kills so many people especially old and sick I wonder why don't we take similar precautions? seems a bit absurd to approach them so differently to me.(and the media reporting on each virus differs so vastly) UK has plans to deal with pandemic causing up to 315,000 …https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-compare-influenza/
Public Health England estimates that on average 17,000 people have died from the flu in England annually between 2014/15 and 2018/19.

Just a thought.

They were projecting that with the "delay" measures of convincing people to wash their hands all the time etc. 250K were still going to die.

It will take these hugely impactful, drastic measures to hold the death rate down to below 20K.

It simply isnt comparable to flu.
 
My lad was clearing his throat. Genuinely.
He gets up at 5.30am every day and gets the train into school. He refused to move schools when we moved house.
He's doing his GCSE this summer.
He was wearing a face mask on trains etc and we check his temp every day.. he's fine.

I realise the tension involved with teachers, but this was a bit daft.. only in my opinion.
I'm not saying he should have been sent home but just giving an idea of why the staff shortages are happening. When you've got teachers and office staff being asked to make decisions that medical professionals should really be making in the circumstances they currently are operating in, its not a surprise they are overly cautious.
 
I'm sure this has been asked but if infuenza kills so many people especially old and sick I wonder why don't we take similar precautions? seems a bit absurd to approach them so differently to me.(and the media reporting on each virus differs so vastly) UK has plans to deal with pandemic causing up to 315,000 …https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-compare-influenza/
Public Health England estimates that on average 17,000 people have died from the flu in England annually between 2014/15 and 2018/19.

Just a thought.

NHS offers 25 million flu vaccines per year to those at risk, with around 10m having a vaccine last winter.

So we do take quite a lot of precautions.
 
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