Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[NilSatisOptimum]

No mate, apparently it’s the new milk substitute.....barstewards......

Surely its the survivalist mindset with the proteins, fortified types would popular.

 

[Harryflashman]

I really don’t get this school closure action. This will drag the economy into the gutter. They are also saying don’t leave children with aged parents, well I am an aged parent and I will be looking after my granddaughter no matter what they say. We have been bounced into this with the panic from the EU, Wales and Scotland. It is the final lunacy that will break our back........

schools were safest place two days ago now closed ,nobody to mind children for a lot of families , some cases only elderly relatives which I believe is against all the medical advice. It certainly doesn’t smack of joined up thinking , not sure you can blame the EU . Although actually I’m confident you probably can.

if decisions are wrong or right I don’t care who makes them of whatever political or ideological hue I’ll happily support or criticise. Genuinely I will .

 

[bignev23]

"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function."

Do you not understand how limiting the exposure to infected individuals saves lives over the long term? This disease can kill. It is killing. Most people will not die, but some will. The more people who are exposed to an infected person, will in turn expose more. Eventually, the vulnerable - the elderly, the diabetic, the asthmatics, etc - are exposed and those are the ones who have a much greater risk of dying.

The fatality rate from confirmed cases is currently sitting at 4.05%. Roughly speaking, if one infected person comes into transmissable contact range with let's say 100 other people over the period they carry it, that's 4 people dead, while all of them who catch it can each then pass it on to another 100, at which point that's 10,000 people exposed.

Going into lockdown turns that 100 figure, into 10.

The government themselves have said the best case scenario is for the total number of deaths to be under 20,000. That's if everything goes to plan and these social distancing measures are carried out from right now -- You don't wait until a disease has killed that many people before taking action to stop the spread ffs!

Reckon If we wait until hundreds of thousands were dead before taking serious action, we‘ve missed the boat at that point.

And I don’t think the big concern is over the otherwise healthy people, it’s over the sick, elderly and vulnerable.

The measures are extreme, because we’ve seen the exponential growth rate in other countries, which if mirrored here and not slowed down, would take only 15 more “doublings“ for the entire population to be infected. At current rate, about 2 months.

The irony in everyone hating 'Dinosaur' Brexiters for the last three years and now being so concerned about them makes me smile wryly.

 

[Blueclouds]

So did this spread all over China? Its seems that the stats are low. Does this mean millions had this and didnt get tested.

 

[LostLegend]

 

[coollino]

 

[Zezti]

The irony in everyone hating 'Dinosaur' Brexiters for the last three years and now being so concerned about them makes me smile wryly.

I didn't say anything about Brexiteers??

 

[Amw79]

The irony in everyone hating 'Dinosaur' Brexiters for the last three years and now being so concerned about them makes me smile wryly.

Dunno why you‘ve brought Brexit into it? I’ve got family members who voted Brexit, and I’ve had lively disagreements with them over the last 3 years, however am extremely concerned about them, as I love them dearly and they’re smack bang in the high risk zone.

Believe it or not, you can disagree with someone’s politics without hating them.

But you go ahead and smile wryly.

 

[LostLegend]

Couple of things I noticed in the bill:

provide indemnity for clinical negligence liabilities arising from NHS activities carried out for the purposes of dealing with, or because of, the coronavirus outbreak, where there is no existing indemnity arrangement in place. This will ensure that those providing healthcare service activity across the UK are legally protected for the work they are required to undertake as part of the COVID-19 response. This is in line with and will complement existing arrangements

temporarily relax local authorities’ duties in relation to their duties to conduct a needs assessment and prepare an adult carer support plan/young care statement under the Social Work (Scotland) Act 1968, the Children (Scotland) Act 1995, the Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 and the Carers (Scotland) Act 2016 to enable them to prioritise people with the greatest needs

postpone the local, mayoral and Police and Crime Commissioner elections that were due to take place in England in May this year until May 2021. Provision will also be made to postpone other electoral events over the course of the year (such as by-elections)

enable existing mental health legislation powers to detain and treat patients who need urgent treatment for a mental health disorder and are a risk to themselves or others, to be implemented using just one doctor’s opinion (rather than the current 2). This will ensure that those who were a risk to themselves or others would still get the treatment they need, when fewer doctors are available to undertake this function

This could potentially run for up to 2 years

 

[BlueToff]

I do understand this . My only struggle with it is that without a vaccine then ,to use a Brexit phrase , aren’t we just kicking the can down the road ? Unless lockdown is for actual months if not years then isn’t there a real danger of it simply starting again once The lockdown is lifted ? Once people go back to work or you open the pubs ? Or is this the new normal , In which case whose producing the things we need for everyday society ? If we were looking at a lockdown and vigorous testing it’d make significantly more sense if I’m honest .

Like I say it’s probably a stupid question and I can see the time can be utilised to become more prepared by producing ventilators or PPE so that does make sense .

Yeh all it's surely doing is delaying the spread – which is a good thing obviously and what we need to aim for.

But this virus isn't just going to go away. It's here for good - at least several months. And as it stands the only way we know of to beat it right now is for enough people to get it so that life in general can return to some form of normality?

This is all a question btw. I don't want to make it sound like i'm making assumptions.

 

[tsubaki]

the sooner “Whitehall sources” get this bloody disease the better

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I really don’t get this school closure action. This will drag the economy into the gutter. They are also saying don’t leave children with aged parents, well I am an aged parent and I will be looking after my granddaughter no matter what they say. We have been bounced into this with the panic from the EU, Wales and Scotland. It is the final lunacy that will break our back........

The inability of Johnson to command confidence. He had the stage he had the nation attention and he has failed. If you need a reference point on being the statesman and how to address a nation, see here-

Covid-19 emergency to continue beyond March - Varadkar

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said the coronavirus emergency is likely to go on well beyond 29 March and could go on for months into the summer.

www.rte.ie

 

[ilikecheese]

"I don't get school closures" is so effing tone deaf and ignorant.

Boils my blood.

 

[Harryflashman]

"I don't get school closures" is so effing tone deaf and ignorant.

Boils my blood.

I think a lot will be puzzled by the volte face, although my guess is not Pete

 

[Toast]

"I don't get school closures" is so effing tone deaf and ignorant.

Boils my blood.

My lad got sent home for coughing today.
Nowt wrong with him.

But I believe the teacher sickness is very high.
So the shut down was inevitable.

And me eldest was doing overtime in a supermarket seeing as his Uni was closed..
He phoned me in disbelief tonight "A customer called me a Nazi for saying he couldn't have all the stuff he wanted"

( Stay classy Birkenhead ! )