Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

Dave...

Mate...

I don't like Johnson. He's massively inept. Never wanted him anywhere near power.

But Jesus Christ. You can't just go and chuck comparisons to Hitler about.

Mass murder isn't a commonality?

 

[BlueToff]

Mass murder isn't a commonality?

Johnson didn't commit religion/race-based genocide and kick-start a world war that killed millions and millions of people.

What he and his government did do is fail to deal with a global pandemic – started in and covered up by China – with any sort of competency.

They're not the same, no, and should not at all be flippantly compared.

 

[peteblue]

German media fact checking :/

Is AstraZeneca in breach of its EU contract?

AstraZeneca has announced delivery bottlenecks concerning its vaccine — but only for the EU. So is the UK getting preferential treatment? There are also question marks over its efficacy in elderly people.

www.dw.com

About as reliable as the newspaper 8%.....

 

[Sy-]

About as reliable as the newspaper 8%.....

Heh, I couldn't help but notice in both cases they were missing the fundamental ingredient of a fact check... the facts

A) the contract
B) substantial efficacy data

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That is the problem in a nutshell, for this issue and the wider handling of the pandemic.

It is the governments reputation that is the deciding factor in any decision, not what is best for the country.

I would much rather my elderly Czech relatives get vaccinated before me. If we're at a point where we're vaccinating healthy people while high risk people in Europe are going without then we have a moral duty imo.

 

[edge]

Anybody listening to this professor on channel 4 news.
Very informative , impressed with him here.

 

[peteblue]

Heh, I couldn't help but notice in both cases they were missing the fundamental ingredient of a fact check... the facts

A) the contract
B) substantial efficacy data

The one guy insisting that the EU may be able to sue AZ, having not seen the contract.....

 

[peteblue]

I would much rather my elderly Czech relatives get vaccinated before me. If we're at a point where we're vaccinating healthy people while high risk people in Europe are going without then we have a moral duty imo.

Now that is a very fair point. What would be the cut off ?....

 

[Alan Whittle]

I would much rather my elderly Czech relatives get vaccinated before me. If we're at a point where we're vaccinating healthy people while high risk people in Europe are going without then we have a moral duty imo.

anti vaxers say British vaccines for British people. No, wait. Err..

 

[roydo]

I would much rather my elderly Czech relatives get vaccinated before me. If we're at a point where we're vaccinating healthy people while high risk people in Europe are going without then we have a moral duty imo.

I wish I had the moral fibre to agree with you.

I too would let my parents go before me, (they have, but thats irrelevant), but hand on heart, my priority is to get this country back to some sort of normality.

If that makes me a bad person, then soz, but thats cos I am a feeble human being, with all the flaws that entails.

And lets face it, there are not that many folk across the planet that would give up a vax in favour of a Granny in Brazil.

 

[Alan Whittle]

I wish I had the moral fibre to agree with you.

I too would let my parents go before me, (they have, but thats irrelevant), but hand on heart, my priority is to get this country back to some sort of normality.

If that makes me a bad person, then soz, but thats cos I am a feeble human being, with all the flaws that entails.

And lets face it, there are not that many folk across the planet that would give up a vax in favour of a Granny in Brazil.

I applaud your honesty mate.

 

[roydo]

I applaud your honesty mate.

You have been here long enough to probably know my recent back story; that has certainly contributed to what I posted.

 

[edge]

anti vaxers say British vaccines for British people. No, wait. Err..

The so called british vaccine is the only one made for not for profit, while the pandemic is in place
And will be available to poor countries that either cannot afford the other vaccines or have the infrastructure in place to use them.
This country has nothing to be ashamed of on its aims to get the vaccine out there , think we are currently the worlds second biggest contributor to getting it spread around outside rich countries.

 

[peteblue]

I wish I had the moral fibre to agree with you.

I too would let my parents go before me, (they have, but thats irrelevant), but hand on heart, my priority is to get this country back to some sort of normality.

If that makes me a bad person, then soz, but thats cos I am a feeble human being, with all the flaws that entails.

And lets face it, there are not that many folk across the planet that would give up a vax in favour of a Granny in Brazil.

...Rooney.....

 

[Alan Whittle]

You have been here long enough to probably know my recent back story; that has certainly contributed to what I posted.

I was going to suggest that in my post but I think a lot of folks would take that understandable view even without the horrible time that you and your family have gone through.
The world might be a better place if different but I suspect I’m becoming a hippy.