Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[jonnyboy316]

You still don’t get them do you. It no longer has anything to do with if the vaccine works or not, the EU will be saying to AZ, give us the U.K. vaccines or we add the caveat about the over 65’s. AZ have two days to agree, or else. If they agree, it will get full approval. However, having bullied and put AZ between a rock and a hard place, AZ may just surprise them...

There is now way we would allow the U.K. vaccines to leave U.K. soil before our order has been honoured. This is the governments only shot at partial redemption.

 

[peteblue]

My plan would have been to throttle the life out of any uncontrollable surge in this virus by shutting down tightly back in October. What we need now - because of that catastrophic decision to not do that but to murder people instead - is to wait until every vulnerable person has had their two jabs (which is why the later delay of that 2nd jab was so wrong. So, in my plan, reverse that decision and allow the manufacturer's instructions to hold sway. After that, allow a partial reopening of the economy (which is where we're at right now - but in my plan would have been reopening end of March to the levels of activity we have now).

That would have been my plan and would have saved about 20,000-30,000 people. Mr Johnson's plan was a little different: to let this virus rip through the country and break the health care system and top 100,000 deaths.

But Dave, if Boris actually set out to murder 100,000, surely he is so useless that he would only murder 26. You can’t have it always, either he is a maniacal genius or he’s a pillock, your choice really.....

 

[peteblue]

There is now way we would allow the U.K. vaccines to leave U.K. soil before our order has been honoured. This is the governments only shot at partial redemption.

I’m sure the EU would like us to do that in order to justify their craven act of vaccine export licensing......

 

[Sy-]

Don't get me wrong, I don't think AZ have come out smelling of roses, but the EU have little right to be demanding that AZ send doses across from the UK - which is a totally separate deal altogether - to compensate for that. Same as the UK has little right to demand Pfizer send over stocks from EU orders.

Can't remember where I read it, but I think that particular deal is part of the original agreement made when Oxford University joined forces with AZ.

Kind of eluded to here in paragraph 5 - https://www.astrazeneca.com/content...tments-for-oxfords-potential-new-vaccine.html

 

[davek]

But Dave, if Boris actually set out to murder 100,000, surely he is so useless that he would only murder 26. You can’t have it always, either he is a maniacal genius or he’s a pillock, your choice really.....

"Boris."

I bet you call Hitler "Adolf" too.

 

[BlueToff]

Minor point, but they are not U.K. numbers, they are England numbers only......

Nah, major point. Nice one Pete, will make sure to correct that from now on.

 

[BlueToff]

"Boris."

I bet you call Hitler "Adolf" too.

Dave...

Mate...

I don't like Johnson. He's massively inept. Never wanted him anywhere near power.

But Jesus Christ. You can't just go and chuck comparisons to Hitler about.

 

[BlueToff]

Can't remember where I read it, but I think that particular deal is part of the original agreement made when Oxford University joined forces with AZ.

Kind of eluded to here in paragraph 5 - https://www.astrazeneca.com/content...tments-for-oxfords-potential-new-vaccine.html

Yep, makes sense, and signed at totally different times too (3 months is a long time for a vaccine cooked up in the space of 9-11 months!)

 

[COYBL25]

Dave...

Mate...

I don't like Johnson. He's massively inept. Never wanted him anywhere near power.

But Jesus Christ. You can't just go and chuck comparisons to Hitler about.

 

[peteblue]

Yep, makes sense, and signed at totally different times too (3 months is a long time for a vaccine cooked up in the space of 9-11 months!)

EU time runs completely differently to everyone else’s.....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Israel’s vaccine rollout has been fast, so why is it controversial and what can other countries learn?

Israel is vaccinating its population at an impressive rate and sharing the data with the world. But at what price?

theconversation.com

 

[tsubaki]

There is now way we would allow the U.K. vaccines to leave U.K. soil before our order has been honoured. This is the governments only shot at partial redemption.

That is the problem in a nutshell, for this issue and the wider handling of the pandemic.

It is the governments reputation that is the deciding factor in any decision, not what is best for the country.

 

[summerisle]

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

German media fact checking :/

Is AstraZeneca in breach of its EU contract?

AstraZeneca has announced delivery bottlenecks concerning its vaccine — but only for the EU. So is the UK getting preferential treatment? There are also question marks over its efficacy in elderly people.

www.dw.com

 

[Amw79]

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