Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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There are a few silver linings to the pandemic and reduce green house emissions is certainly one of them.
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Purely anecdotal but I’ve never seen as many birds of prey as this year. Loads of red tailed and Cooper’s hawks (fairly typical here in MD), but also red shouldered hawks and a bald eagle. A nice silver lining
 
Purely anecdotal but I’ve never seen as many birds of prey as this year. Loads of red tailed and Cooper’s hawks (fairly typical here in MD), but also red shouldered hawks and a bald eagle. A nice silver lining
I don't think it is anecdotal, animals seem to have gotten a break from human activity during this time of covid chaos. Whales are among them. It seems the ocean is much quieter now than it has been in ages and because of it whales have been able to communicate with one another with ease. So I take any silver lining during this pandemic even if it is for the good of other species.
 
Surely it's the driving somewhere to exercise that's the issue. Starts at the front door in Wales I think. Stops loads of people driving to the same place and leaving an undefined local area.

I’m not on about people driving to the likes of the Lakes for “ exercise “ I’m talking about the cyclist who leaves his house and puts a 50 mile plus shift in, the distance runner, who goes out for a couple of hours or more.

Normal everyday things are slowly being demonised and the herd are gleefully jumping on board.

Sitting on a park bench is now a crime, driving to your local park to feed the ducks with kids is against the rules and worthy of a £200 fine.

Waiting outside a kiosk for a coffee could now be banned.

It’s a very slippery slope.
 
I’m not on about people driving to the likes of the Lakes for “ exercise “ I’m talking about the cyclist who leaves his house and puts a 50 mile plus shift in, the distance runner, who goes out for a couple of hours or more.

Normal everyday things are slowly being demonised and the herd are gleefully jumping on board.

Sitting on a park bench is now a crime, driving to your local park to feed the ducks with kids is against the rules and worthy of a £200 fine.

Waiting outside a kiosk for a coffee could now be banned.

It’s a very slippery slope.
Think there is conflicting stories about whether he drove 7 miles to cycle and thats whats causing this,on the one hand they are telling people not to travel,but if he has you csn then see the problem,same with was it Gove?going from one tier to another to attend church,it undermines the message they are sending out and without any repercussions it opens up the opportunity to everybody to do the same
 
I’m not on about people driving to the likes of the Lakes for “ exercise “ I’m talking about the cyclist who leaves his house and puts a 50 mile plus shift in, the distance runner, who goes out for a couple of hours or more.

Normal everyday things are slowly being demonised and the herd are gleefully jumping on board.

Sitting on a park bench is now a crime, driving to your local park to feed the ducks with kids is against the rules and worthy of a £200 fine.

Waiting outside a kiosk for a coffee could now be banned.

It’s a very slippery slope.
It could be, but in reality (like always) there's a pendulum of views from one extreme to the other which often misses or ignore the majority - the centralist view.

It's incredibly difficult to legislate for the entire population when you consider COVID rules so that's where context comes into play or in other words mitigation.

In binary terms, it's an offence to leave your house for unnecessary reasons and only idiots would go down that draconian route of complete enforcement.

Would sitting on your local park bench in most cases require enforcement? No, you'd hope not. Should walking around with a drink being an issue? No.

But if someone has drove twenty-miles to a park, with a coffee, when there's suitable alternatives closer to their home then you've got to begin to question...

... their reasoning. Basically, it's a situation where context and mitigation need to be considered. I've got Sefton Park or Calderstones within a few minutes.

If I decided to drive to Formby, Lancashire or into deep Cheshire, well I couldn't really argue if the local cops decided to throw a fine my way.
 
I’m not on about people driving to the likes of the Lakes for “ exercise “ I’m talking about the cyclist who leaves his house and puts a 50 mile plus shift in, the distance runner, who goes out for a couple of hours or more.

Normal everyday things are slowly being demonised and the herd are gleefully jumping on board.

Sitting on a park bench is now a crime, driving to your local park to feed the ducks with kids is against the rules and worthy of a £200 fine.

Waiting outside a kiosk for a coffee could now be banned.

It’s a very slippery slope.
It's ridiculous. I'm not going to say apply common sense because it's a slippery slope, but the consideration should be 'is this in the interests of public health' and 'is this policing appropriate to protect public health'.

In defence of the police, they've been asked to interpret and apply a varying degree of regulation/guidance/law over the course of the past year - which has changed roughly every week.

However, it may be wiser for them to apply some proportionality in their approach - just because you have the power, doesn't mean it is applicable equally in every circumstance.
 
It could be, but in reality (like always) there's a pendulum of views from one extreme to the other which often misses or ignore the majority - the centralist view.

It's incredibly difficult to legislate for the entire population when you consider COVID rules so that's where context comes into play or in other words mitigation.

In binary terms, it's an offence to leave your house for unnecessary reasons and only idiots would go down that draconian route of complete enforcement.

Would sitting on your local park bench in most cases require enforcement? No, you'd hope not. Should walking around with a drink being an issue? No.

But if someone has drove twenty-miles to a park, with a coffee, when there's suitable alternatives closer to their home then you've got to begin to question...

... their reasoning. Basically, it's a situation where context and mitigation need to be considered.
Binary application of the law, in respect to Covid Legislation, would have given rise to some very anomalous results.
 
Think we need to set up sniper nests to take out all the cyclists personally.

Cometh the hour....


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