Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Work I assume. The firm I work for is a tier 1 Main Contractor who still expect us to go to the workplace despite the fact the job could be done remotely. This is different to last March where all offices were closed and support staff either furloughed or told to work at home.

Yeah, I remember you saying that you worked in a busy office. That's not right in this case, but again it's on the company you work for. You should file a complaint direct to them.

The government have made it mandatory that you work from home unless you absolutely can't. The wording is exactly the same as March - so the company you work for should not be not allowing people to work from home.

Just had an email from my second job (also in construction) and they have agreed that I'll be able to have keys (hadn't before as I'm part time) so that I can come in on my two days a week. It'll only be me in the office but that's fine by me. Also it's a 3-minute drive from my house so fortunately I don't have to travel far.

If an SME that I work for can be flexible and follow the rules at the same time, then a Tier 1 contractor should be also. If you don't feel safe, then you have the right not to go in and perhaps even push that further?
 
According to some of the worldometer stat guys, we've had 10% of the world's new infections in the last 72 hours, and Johnson sent the kids to school for a day to mingle.

SAGE warned prior to Christmas that we were heading for catastrophe if we allowed the schools to back and didn't lock down, which Johnson government basically chose to ignore. We know this because Johnson went on live TV Sunday and declared the schools were safe. So no new relevant information suddenly came in last night that they didn't already know. They had the information and disregarded it.

Gross negligence. Seeing as this will result in further loss of life.

Coronavirus Graphs: Worldwide Cases and Deaths - Worldometer (worldometers.info)
 
I agree with that, fully.

But we need to get people vaccinated. If they can prove it doesn't have a negative impact, then it will mean more people can get up to 90% protection quicker, with their booster to take it up.

That's a good thing. But, if it's not working, then they have to change their approach.

Try the French approach...who have taken a week to give the vaccine to just over 500 people....

”The slow rollout is being blamed on mismanagement, end-of-year staffing shortages, and a complex consent policy to avoid litigation in a vaccine-sceptical country in which 60 per cent of the population say they won't get a jab, according to the latest poll. The vaccine consent form is 45 pages long.”
 
It isn’t - the issue is that the government think it’s possible to change plans on the fly, to bring in lockdowns with advanced warning of less than a day, or to change how dual jab vaccinations are going to be carried out after people have had the first dose.

Someone once said “no plan survives contact with the enemy”, but this lot destroy their own plans before the enemy get involved- which is a problem, as the plans are invariably written and exercised by people who know what they talk about.
That was a German though, so I suspect the government is determined to outdo them.
 
Coffee shops open, all retail allowed to open for click and collect. BnQ and garden centres open.
I was thinking the same. is this a 'proper' lockdown? by that I mean compared to the first one. Lockdown 2 as far as I could tell was largely ignored. I've been a stickler for the rules since last year and have butted heads with my employers on attending meetings face to face when Teams is more than adequate (and often stops people talking over the main speaker in side conversations) but the roar of traffic this morning was normal and is still going now. What made it worse is my boss caught it and has no ill effects after a three week knock out, so he thinks 'it's not that bad'. it's all getting a bit much now.
 
I was thinking the same. is this a 'proper' lockdown? by that I mean compared to the first one. Lockdown 2 as far as I could tell was largely ignored. I've been a stickler for the rules since last year and have butted heads with my employers on attending meetings face to face when Teams is more than adequate (and often stops people talking over the main speaker in side conversations) but the roar of traffic this morning was normal and is still going now. What made it worse is my boss caught it and has no ill effects after a three week knock out, so he thinks 'it's not that bad'. it's all getting a bit much now.
Thats the attitude in this country though isn't it. People go to work sick and it carries on spreading.

Our work has an office in South East Asia and the people there don't understand how everything is open in the UK when the virus is so bad.
 
I was thinking the same. is this a 'proper' lockdown? by that I mean compared to the first one. Lockdown 2 as far as I could tell was largely ignored. I've been a stickler for the rules since last year and have butted heads with my employers on attending meetings face to face when Teams is more than adequate (and often stops people talking over the main speaker in side conversations) but the roar of traffic this morning was normal and is still going now. What made it worse is my boss caught it and has no ill effects after a three week knock out, so he thinks 'it's not that bad'. it's all getting a bit much now.

There's no law against stupidity, unfortunately.

I don't know if coffee shops are open or not.

I was thinking last night though - I go on a walk at a dam near mine. Lots of people go but when I go, mornings in the week, it's pretty quiet.

There's a little coffee shop halfway around that opened in the summer. It's just a family business trying to get off the ground, and they've been hit with this crap.

Since West Yorks has been in T3 since just before the November lockdown, they haven't been open for anything except takeouts. However, that will have done good for them. They won't have had to rely on government grants and get plenty of people stopping to get a coffee for their walk.

It's on the widest part of the path, and they have people queuing up, at distance. They have a station outside their door with the contactless card machine (only payment they accept) and people - who have to be wearing masks - just file past like they would in a drive-through. It's one girl on that station and then the husband and wife who own it making the drinks.

Now, I don't really see what benefit those having to stop doing that would do? All it would mean is an independent place that could keep going in a safe manner has to shut, and rely on government funding - which could instead be used for a business which can't trade safely?

I don't know if this place will be open or not - I'll see whenever I next go - but just in theory, what danger should a place like that be posing to anyone? It's all outside, all socially distanced and the people who work there wear visors, face masks and gloves
 
Surely they'd be able to train as they're preparing for elite sport?

I could be recalling incorrectly but I think they were in similar restrictions for a couple of previous rounds. I'd assume there will be some kind of exemption given since they aren't professionals and training isn't participation then I'd guess the rule would stand on a technical level.

*Further reading shows that the FA are paying for Covid tests for Marine so I'm guessing there is an exemption being made. What happened in previous rounds I'm guessing isn't happening now.
 
Work I assume. The firm I work for is a tier 1 Main Contractor who still expect us to go to the workplace despite the fact the job could be done remotely. This is different to last March where all offices were closed and support staff either furloughed or told to work at home.
this is so absurd. if the decisions are left to companies, many people will be still going to work. carnage.
 
Try the French approach...who have taken a week to give the vaccine to just over 500 people....

”The slow rollout is being blamed on mismanagement, end-of-year staffing shortages, and a complex consent policy to avoid litigation in a vaccine-sceptical country in which 60 per cent of the population say they won't get a jab, according to the latest poll. The vaccine consent form is 45 pages long.”

All gets ignored mate.

Apart from when they do things better - then it's "why aren't we doing things like this country".

It's all crap. Australia and New Zealand have definitely dealt with this better than anywhere but there's no way they won't see a little rise in cases - and see how happy the people over there will be if they have to go back into lockdown. Fortunately, they've given themselves a great head start, but there's loads of factors for that.

The Asian countries clearly have test and trace in place but let's face it, they have totally different attitudes too. However, places like Thailand etc have done very well, even though according to a colleague who lives there atm, it isn't a great place to be with the measures.

The end game for everyone is the vaccine.
 
Non essential shops can operate on a click and collect basis.

But that's mostly the likes of your B&Qs, Halfords etc

They were all open in March and April, too, on a click and collect basis.

There's gonna be very few small independent businesses that will open on click and collect.
 
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