Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Blueclouds]

This is getting me down, I'm constantly worrying about the vulnerable family members. Will this ever end

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Yeah see my other post. Didn't mean excess deaths - was the wrong term.

But if there's supposedly a 90 per cent (not verified so can't be certain until such time that it is, which will be further down the line) drop off in reported influenza cases, then that's going to make up a large proportion of deaths. Unfortunately, it'll probably be those people that were most at risk from dying from the flu this winter that will end up dying of covid. There's not really a nicer way to put it. All we can do is hope the measures start working again and the vaccine gets out quickly.

Excess deaths It will take years to play out. For instance a cancer that would have been identified at stage one this time last year is now being spotted much later due various lock downs and the effects on NHS services. Various articles and commentators are warning of this scenario. Many people who would have had very good outcomes with such diagnosis will now time limited shorter lifes.

Many viruses will suppressed such as influenza due to social distancing measures.

 

[tommytowne]

On the plus side, once the very mention of potential shortages of lettuce and other salad foodstuffs were mentioned, thousands of people will feel the need to stockpile the stuff even though they've avoided the product for ever. Healthy eating?

 

[summerisle]

Oh look, lying again.

 

[PhilM]

Yeah and there's been more uptake this year with the flu jab here.

By the end of all this - whenever that is - there will not be much difference in excess death figures.

That may be grim, and it may sound callous, but it'll likely be true. Not saying we shouldn't have measures in place to protect people or that we shouldn't be rolling the vaccine out etc.

The impact on more people's lives that continued measures are having will have more of a devastating impact, unless countries and governments come up with a completely new way of boosting economies (we can but hope!)

Comparing figures from a year with strict social restrictions and a typical year without is false equivalence - flu deaths are lower because of the restrictions.

Influenza is not as easily as transmitted and measures such as distancing, cleaning and closed schools, which took place, are proven to be successful.


Even if the overall mortality figures are similar or lower than previous years, you have to take into consideration multiple other factors playing a part.

Examples could be less regular travel equating to less deaths on the road, less accidents in the work place and reduced transmissions of viruses.

Without all this, the numbers may* have been horrific. *likely to be.

 

[tsubaki]

Oh look, lying again.

another obvious fib no one called him on at the press conference

 

[PhilM]

another obvious fib no one called him on at the press conference

I think that's perhaps why Highways England released the information approximately thirty-minutes later because they knew he'd plucked a figure from mid-air.

 

[orchard]

Oh look, lying again.

TAP20 wasn't included apparently, because it's a closed section of the A20...

 

[zzr45]

You keep saying that, and I keep telling you the numbers involved in the low-high dosage trial were too small and their demographic too narrowly focussed to make those claims of efficacy rigorous.

Dave, stick to social sciences where you can get away with not understanding sampling methods.

Even super fag packet maths shows a population of 4.6 million (over 55’s as a catch all demographic) with 95% confidence level and a 3% confidence interval would require 1067 participants. Granted to get even greater accuracy, you’d want a bigger sample, but to say it’s too small is literally ridiculous.

 

[OGG]

I’m not going to be sucked into arguing your nonsense Dave, I’ve learnt my lesson on far more trivial things such as Baines being an Evertonian!

If they show up at my elderly uncle’s door tomorrow with the Oxford vaccine I would be utterly delighted.

For elderly people the risk of getting vaccinated is clearly lower than the risk of not getting vaccinated, given mortality rates in the elderly.

No-brainer even before the benefit to society of widespread vaccination is considered.

 

[tsubaki]

I think that's perhaps why Highways England released the information approximately thirty-minutes later because they knew he'd plucked a figure from mid-air.

I know, I just wish the people carefully selected to be at these conferences would actually deal with this greatest of elephants in the room.

 

[BlueDraka]

another obvious fib no one called him on at the press conference

Think everyone knows that the blonde blob lies about everything. The mainstream political media let him get away with it. I've never known a person like him who lies, never seems to know the facts of anything. Horrible mess

 

[Billy Dean]

Are you here to take over @Kenshin role on the forum now he's banned?

I miss kenshin. I’ve been watching his YouTube videos. Meticulously researched just like his posts

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Antarctica no longer covid free

Coronavirus cases recorded in Antarctica at Chilean research station

Antarctica can no longer lay claim to being the only continent free of coronavirus after 36 Chileans tested positive for COVID-19, according to the country's military.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Nymzee]

Yeah see my other post. Didn't mean excess deaths - was the wrong term.

But if there's supposedly a 90 per cent (not verified so can't be certain until such time that it is, which will be further down the line) drop off in reported influenza cases, then that's going to make up a large proportion of deaths. Unfortunately, it'll probably be those people that were most at risk from dying from the flu this winter that will end up dying of covid. There's not really a nicer way to put it. All we can do is hope the measures start working again and the vaccine gets out quickly.

You don’t have - and won’t have - nearly the right data yet to spout lines like this.