Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[The binman chronicles]

If we stopped travel in February i agree we'd be fine but at the time they weren't even considering anything like that. March it might have been here already and by April it wouldn't have really made a difference as it was already widespread.

Just seen that Fauci is saying masks will be required until around 2022. Quite some time to go until normality.

They could have closed them at the point they shut everything down in March. Returning nationals would still come back but go into a two week strict quarantine.

By the end of lockdown the numbers should have dwindled enough to keep a track on things. How can you keep up now when constantly you have people moving around bumping into god knows who and coming back into the country not giving a flying one.

The question is the damage of having an international travel ban worse than the national businesses that are shut or operating in a reduced capacity. In my simple mind I would say not.

 

[grandjoeblue]

They could have closed them at the point they shut everything down in March. Returning nationals would still come back but go into a two week strict quarantine.

By the end of lockdown the numbers should have dwindled enough to keep a track on things. How can you keep up now when constantly you have people moving around bumping into god knows who and coming back into the country not giving a flying one.

The question is the damage of having an international travel ban worse than the national businesses that are shut or operating in a reduced capacity. In my simple mind I would say not.

Would have been too late by that point though as hundreds of thousands in the UK already had the virus. The ban should have happened in January or February but unfortunately it didn't.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[tsubaki]

What the incel basement-dweller of Battersea means is that every man who wears a mask has a girlfriend. Why can’t he get one?

 

[The binman chronicles]

Would have been too late by that point though as hundreds of thousands in the UK already had the virus. The ban should have happened in January or February but unfortunately it didn't.

That is simply not true. If you are saying to prevent it completely then yes. But we got it and at that point decisions could have been made. Check the deaths and hospital figures for June when we came out of the lockdown an international travel ban would have meant that would have stayed like it. Yet we had thousands flock to open bars on the continent and brought back a load more cases which then multiply.

 

[grandjoeblue]

That is simply not true. If you are saying to prevent it completely then yes. But we got it and at that point decisions could have been made. Check the deaths and hospital figures for June when we came out of the lockdown an international travel ban would have meant that would have stayed like it. Yet we had thousands flock to open bars on the continent and brought back a load more cases which then multiply.

I don't think the international travel in June caused any real spike, the levels were pretty similar until September and then schools reopened and the cases flew up. International travel obviously brought the virus here in the first place but the rates for the last few months don't have a lot to do with current international travel.

 

[Bungle]

Who doesn't want to start their day with this mental image

 

[Barnfred 55]

Well now we know what went on at Number 10 back in the 90s lol

 

[The binman chronicles]

I don't think the international travel in June caused any real spike, the levels were pretty similar until September and then schools reopened and the cases flew up. International travel obviously brought the virus here in the first place but the rates for the last few months don't have a lot to do with current international travel.

It's cumulative. If you think large gatherings (schools) on their own caused spikes then we would have already ballooned from the protests marches after lockdown ended.

We had a very low starting base at that point and it required a reintroduction similar to when it first arrived here, then give it a way to transmit easily through the schools which is why it ramped up thereafter.

 

[Barnfred 55]

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[grandjoeblue]

It's cumulative. If you think large gatherings (schools) on their own caused spikes then we would have already ballooned from the protests marches after lockdown ended.

We had a very low starting base at that point and it required a reintroduction similar to when it first arrived here, then give it a way to transmit easily through the schools which is why it ramped up thereafter.

Protests are typically outdoors. I think there is quite a lot of evidence that most outdoors scenarios result in less cases. Schools alongside universities and the temperatures dropping leading to indoor gatherings have caused the rise in the last few months.

Universities should have been online only until at least January but they wanted the fees..

 

[spectateur]

It's cumulative. If you think large gatherings (schools) on their own caused spikes then we would have already ballooned from the protests marches after lockdown ended.

We had a very low starting base at that point and it required a reintroduction similar to when it first arrived here, then give it a way to transmit easily through the schools which is why it ramped up thereafter.

I would agree that the return to schools and unis propagated the spread of the virus.
It certainly seemed to be the case here in a rural part of France.
We had very low figures of infection in the early part of the year. Summer came along with the tourists.
Then the kids went back to schools. Here they are bussed from villages all over into the main towns where the colleges are.
October and November saw a great and wide spread of infections all over the département. The prefect ordered more lock downs, infections now very low again and much below national averages.

 

[Kurt.]

Welsh government now saying only 2 households allowed to meet up over Christmas and 1 single person from a third household and after the 5 day period which ends on 28th the whole of wales will be under even tighter restrictions. Annoying for me as where I live the cases are very very low... it’s predominantly in the south where numbers are spiking.

 

[Billy Dean]

Starting to have 2nd thoughts about flying home. Might skip it.

 

[bullybeef]

Welsh government now saying only 2 households allowed to meet up over Christmas and 1 single person from a third household and after the 5 day period which ends on 28th the whole of wales will be under even tighter restrictions. Annoying for me as where I live the cases are very very low... it’s predominantly in the south where numbers are spiking.

Why is Wales (South) struggling to keep it under control Kurt?
The Welsh government have been the most stringent throughout the pandemic, yet Wales seems to currently have the worst rates of infection.

What’s gone wrong?