Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Joint @WHO-China mission on #COVID19 has concluded its visit and delivered its report, says @DrTedros. Includes a range of findings about the transmissibility of the virus, the severity of the disease and the impact of the measures taken. He outlines some key findings:
- #COVID19 epidemic peaked and plateaued between 23.1. and 2.2. and has been declining steadily since then.
- no significant change in the RNA of the virus
- fatality rate is between 2% and 4% in Wuhan and 0,7% outside Wuhan
- recovery time for people with mild #COVID19 infection is about 2 weeks, people with severe infection 3-6 weeks
- team estimates that measures taken in China have averted a significant number of cases
Report contains 22 recommendations, says @DrTedros (Aylward presser tomorrow)

That’s very interesting. I wonder what would lead to the variance in fatality rate between Wuhan and elsewhere

 

[RAFUH]

Joint @WHO-China mission on #COVID19 has concluded its visit and delivered its report, says @DrTedros. Includes a range of findings about the transmissibility of the virus, the severity of the disease and the impact of the measures taken. He outlines some key findings:
- #COVID19 epidemic peaked and plateaued between 23.1. and 2.2. and has been declining steadily since then.
- no significant change in the RNA of the virus
- fatality rate is between 2% and 4% in Wuhan and 0,7% outside Wuhan
- recovery time for people with mild #COVID19 infection is about 2 weeks, people with severe infection 3-6 weeks
- team estimates that measures taken in China have averted a significant number of cases
Report contains 22 recommendations, says @DrTedros (Aylward presser tomorrow)

No proof, but have to believe at least part of the difference in fatality rate is actually under reporting of infected. Not so much a conspiracy as it simply all blew up so fast - Im guessing lots of mild symptoms and/or asymptomatic carriers never identified as COVID-19.

Taking off the tin foil hat - certainly could be that the health system in Wuhan was simply overwhelmed so more fatalities. Severe disease required respirators so I'm sure they were in short supply.

 

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That’s very interesting. I wonder what would lead to the variance in fatality rate between Wuhan and elsewhere

Still early in their outbreaks obviously and numbers could well be skewed by lots of factors including sample size but currently seeing some differences between Italy and S Korea as well
S Korea 833 cases 8 deaths
Italy 229 cases 7 deaths

 

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Still early in their outbreaks obviously and numbers could well be skewed by lots of factors including sample size but currently seeing some differences between Italy and S Korea as well
S Korea 833 cases 8 deaths
Italy 229 cases 7 deaths

I gotcha. If I remember correctly, the 2009 swine flu outbreak originally had a very high fatality rate attributed to it, but then was significantly lowered over the time

 

[RAFUH]

I gotcha. If I remember correctly, the 2009 swine flu outbreak originally had a very high fatality rate attributed to it, but then was significantly lowered over the time

Swine was very low - under < 0.1%.
SARS however was something like 10%; MERS was even worse.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Jebus_lives]

I've never had to work like this, thankfully, but have had to try it out. I found it very claustrophobic.

I dint know how anyone can use them in any sort of heat. It's like being in a sauna.

 

[RAFUH]

I dint know how anyone can use them in any sort of heat. It's like being in a sauna.

Imagine the folks in various countries in Africa fighting Ebola that wear a rubber suit over all that.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Imagine the folks in various countries in Africa fighting Ebola that wear a rubber suit over all that.

I've done the training in the summer in the UK and it was hard enough. It's painful to think about someone using it in 30+ heat for any extended period.

 

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Not sure if this has been posted

 

[cooperman]

Imagine the folks in various countries in Africa fighting Ebola that wear a rubber suit over all that.

Know someone who worked all day in them. Apparently the worst part is from working with your hands lower than your elbows most the day, so your sweat trickles into your gloves and just collects there, causing major irritation. They're such a pain to take off and change they just put up with it

 

[RAFUH]

Interesting stuff if you like data

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762130

 

[LinekersLegs]

Interesting stuff if you like data

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762130


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Under 20s less than 2% of cases - would be interesting to know what %of population they make up.

Looks like it is going to be vital to try stop infections at elder care facilities and hospitals.

63% of healthcare workers in Wuhan - wow.

 

[RAFUH]

Under 20s less than 2% of cases - would be interesting to know what %of population they make up.

Looks like it is going to be vital to try stop infections at elder care facilities and hospitals.

63% of healthcare workers in Wuhan - wow.

Hopefully a lot of the healthcare workers was before we knew what we had going on

Also don’t like that 30 to 79 age bracket. Here we’d probably do 30-59, 60 -79 and then 80+.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Hopefully a lot of the healthcare workers was before we knew what we had going on

The 3.8% is encouraging in the respect.