Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

Status
Not open for further replies.
If that happens, then, as I understand it, both yourself, and your employer would be breaking the law.

I think you said a bit ago that you're work is tied into the NHS in some way ? If so, presumably you work on something which is outsourced rather than working for the NHS directly ?

If your employer has been stupid enough to put into writing / email what you're describing then they're just one disgruntled employee away from a very embarassing situation for them !
I work for the NHS.

Apparantly it's trust policy. Just read the email again and it's from the trust not my higher ups.

Basically as they have 'in house testing', the Liverpool trust will therefore not accept a mass testing site result as a valid test so to speak because they have to go through their own channel. Hence the sending us for a second test despite the symptoms/positive test to begin with.

So yeah, that's the actual Liverpool trust saying this.

Not sure of there is a plan to test staff also regularly as that has not been decided yet.
 
These protestors: backed

I thought if anyone had it you wont get it again for a long time, and you wont be passing it on to someone else. There's barely a handful of cases of reinfection worldwide. So why would Johnson self isolate? Unless he never had it....
The rules are that even if you have had covid you have to isolate if you have been exposed again as it is not 100% clear what the situation with immunity is.

I agree that they should just be testing him regularly now so that he can come out of isolation as soon as possible but what he is doing currently is what he should be.
 
Boris Johnson is self-isolating after a meeting with an MP who later tested positive for COVID-19.

The prime minister's spokesman said he had been notified by NHS Test and Trace that he has to self-isolate as he was a contact of someone who has tested positive.
In a video posted to his Twitter account on Monday, Mr Johnson said he had been "pinged" by the NHS Test and Trace system.

He added: "It doesn't matter that we were all doing social distancing, it doesn't matter that I'm fit as a butcher's dog, feel great - so many people do in my circumstances - and actually it doesn't matter that I've had the disease and I'm bursting with antibodies.

"We've got to interrupt the spread of the disease and one of the ways we can do that now is by self-isolating for 14 days when you get contacted by NHS Test and Trace

Yes PR exercise 100%

This country is a joke
 
Matt Hancock is another absolute waste of space. Seems to be doing various interviews this morning. Probably as Boris plans to avoid any for the foreseeable future.
 
I work for the NHS.

Apparantly it's trust policy. Just read the email again and it's from the trust not my higher ups.

Basically as they have 'in house testing', the Liverpool trust will therefore not accept a mass testing site result as a valid test so to speak because they have to go through their own channel. Hence the sending us for a second test despite the symptoms/positive test to begin with.

So yeah, that's the actual Liverpool trust saying this.

Not sure of there is a plan to test staff also regularly as that has not been decided yet.
Lots of issues round accuracy with these mass testing sites, was on the news cycle Friday, other events took the agenda. Its barley above 50% in mass testing sites who tend you use members of public or army. Compared to round 70% in a hospital setting with fully trained staff. I can see why your trust prefers their definition of efficacy.
 
Lots of issues round accuracy with these mass testing sites, was on the news cycle Friday, other events took the agenda. Its barley above 50% in mass testing sites who tend you use members of public or army. Compared to round 70% in a hospital setting with fully trained staff. I can see why your trust prefers their definition of efficacy.

Spot on.

I got tested yesterday, as much as the staff explained everything ( through a crack in the car window ) it was up to me to administer the swabs correctly to myself inside the car, which wasn`t really the ideal environment ( for me anyway ).

I`d imagine that there`ll be a fair few tests coming back as " void " due to the swabs not being done properly.

It`d be interesting to see how many dud tests came back against how many actual tests were administered.
 
Spot on.

I got tested yesterday, as much as the staff explained everything ( through a crack in the car window ) it was up to me to administer the swabs correctly to myself inside the car, which wasn`t really the ideal environment ( for me anyway ).

I`d imagine that there`ll be a fair few tests coming back as " void " due to the swabs not being done properly.

It`d be interesting to see how many dud tests came back against how many actual tests were administered.
Not sure how they will tell if its dud, unless the swab has not been inserted in an orifice. Just comes back positive or negative and if accuracy is questionable big problem...
 
Not sure how they will tell if its dud, unless the swab has not been inserted in an orifice. Just comes back positive or negative and if accuracy is questionable big problem...

The test comes back as ‘ inconclusive’ if not done properly, so isn’t recorded as a positive or a negative, but still gets recorded as a test on the stats.

In other words it needs doing again.
 
The rules are that even if you have had covid you have to isolate if you have been exposed again as it is not 100% clear what the situation with immunity is.

I agree that they should just be testing him regularly now so that he can come out of isolation as soon as possible but what he is doing currently is what he should be.
That's a first then.
 
The test comes back as ‘ inconclusive’ if not done properly, so isn’t recorded as a positive or a negative, but still gets recorded as a test on the stats.

In other words it needs doing again.

I get what you're saying mate but it's really not a hard test. I know people will do it wrong, like.

The most fiddly thing was shutting that bloody bag :D
 
Thing is, I've had the anti-body test and the actual COVID test over the last 6-7 weeks now.

And there's a good chance neither of the negative results I got are actually 'correct'.

Until that changes - the world over - then there's no real way out of this until the vaccine has been given to everyone. Other than, you know, everyone getting a grip around Europe come Spring.
 
How this idiot has managed to keep his job is beyond me.

Did you see him grinning like a Cheshire Cat on GMB this morning. What a Pratt!

50k+ dead and counting you absolute imbecile.

I fully agree with what you say on Hancock, and the death statistics are horrid.

Watched this the other day:

Weird presentation style aside, it's interesting how much ethnicity plays a role. But, you also have to look at the age groups, too. The vast majority of people who have died are 75+. Then again, it digs down into the deaths of people with underlying conditions.

It's horrid. It doesn't mean that we should accept it. It doesn't mean we shouldn't question or criticise the government. And of course it doesn't mean that we should say 'well these people would have died anyway'.

There just has to be some perspective on the figures.

It's mental to think that we've had the most deaths in Europe, though I'm pretty sure there has been no hospital in the UK coming close to having to have people lying (dying) on the floor - like we saw in Italy and Spain in March.

The death rate is still staying low compared to the cases, which will of course rise as more tests are done. There's also the positive that it seems most people catching this now seem to be in the younger groups and, generally as a rule of thumb, are much less likely to end up hospitalised due to this.

I have a mate who is convinced that the UK are alone in being utterly useless against this thing. Using an example yesterday of a festival in Taiwan taking place over the weekend and saying we could have this is the government had locked down a week earlier etc.

It's daft. Every country in Europe is in some form of lockdown at the moment. The entire European model was to go with a 'flu pandemic model'. Part of that is apparently down to the proximty/size of countries in Europe, and even countries which dealt with it well initially, like Germany, have seen a massive rise in cases. Basically, the entirety of Europe is pinned into a corner (partly because of government decisions).

It's all crap. Everywhere is crap. You can't compare New Zealand and Australia because they're vast nations (Australia is literally its own continent) with much smaller populations. They also followed a completely different model (the SARS model) - their location allowed them to do this.

Apologies for the long post, I just needed to express my thoughts and your post clicked something. I fully agree that Hancock and the rest of this government need to be outed and more for what's happened. But relatively speaking, the entirety of Europe is in the same boat.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join the Everton conversation today.
Fewer ads, full access, completely free.

🛒 Visit Shop

Support Grand Old Team by checking out our latest Everton gear!
Back
Top